ive gotten emails from pokerstars, fulltilt, pokerroom, party poker, but not from paradise poker....but i went ahead and withdrew my money anyways this is a very dark day indeed.
hmm, i haven't gotten anything from anybody. that still hasn't stopped me from cashing out though. ****, this is **** is pissing off to no end!
OK, this is very sad for poker players, but this is also have ramifications beyond online gambling. The way this bill was passed indicates a dark future for all of us. Apparently, you can get any measure passed as long as you hide it in an "Anti-terrorist" bill to get it through. So what is next? Anti-net neutrality legislation hidden in a bill that buys bulletproof vests for our troops? Special tax on DVD recording devices hidden in a bill that increase the salaries of air port security personnel? Oh what? You're voting against that? Why do you hate America?
Continued Fallout From Online Gaming Legislation Long time poker figure, and current WSOP Media Director Nolan Dalla resigned his post yesterday as Media Director for top online poker room Poker Stars. One of the more respected people in the poker business, Nolan resigned his post after receiving legal advice to do so. Nolan has some very interesting thoughts about the recently passed legislation. http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/viewarticle.php?id=1481
Because it is heading towards the fascist end of the political spectrum. What made America unique and great is slowly fading away, one freedom at a time.
Mulder, I am not trying to be antagonistic here, but I wanted to ask you one more question. Your response will not affect what actions I will take, just wanted an opinion, really. What do you think are the realistic chances of a foreign company involved in an industry the US Government has been trying to squash for years bringing suit against me over such a small amount? I know this can be made into a moral question...I am just speaking from a practical standpoint.
dammit i only had $43 in partypoker and $50 is the minimum cashout. i don't wanna add the minimum $50 just so i'm over $50 and then somehow get stuck with $93 instead of $43 gone. of course, i tried to gamble my way up to $50 and lost $15 so i guess i can just lose it all and solve the problem that way.
Same problem here, but I gambled my way up to 51 dollars from 39. Those 50 cent games are all you need to make money.
How could they sue you? They messed up. At worst, they have to at least give you a notice saying they accidently gave you money and request you return it. Relax man... until you get some sort of request from them, there's no issue here.
well the link that was posted by buck pretty much echos what I was thinking will happen to poker. this bill will single handedly destroy the poker craze. it is terrible. I didn't gamble online much, but this is complete crap. secondly, has anyone contacted their representatives about this? ever since graduating from college with my history major and government minor I haven't given a damn about voting and politics, but it just seems like more and more bs is going on and I feel like I am without a voice. I am tired of doing nothing. I want to know if anyone in congress is pushing to get this rider on the bill killed. repeal the damn lottery if you are going to kill online gambling. nothing like taxing the poor with the lotto. I am angry.
Well, hey, don't forget to register to vote! (Although, I doubt I have to remind most of you guys, especially the veterans of the D&D )
U.S. Gaming Prohibition Violates WTO Agreements WTO Has Ruled Against the US in Past Cases Concerning Online Gambling The United Kingdom is one of more than 60 nations in the world that passed laws to allow, tax, and regulate online gaming, including poker, on its soil. It’s the first truly industrialized nation to do so, as well as the richest. And as a member of the World Trade Organization, with millions of dollars at stake, it will soon have to decided to try to take on the strongest nation in the world. The WTO has already ruled against the US for attempting to ban online gambling, and now that anti-online gambling legislation has made it through Congress, more WTO complaints will probably be filed. The U.K might find itself in that line. Read about the way it was sneaked through here, and what it means to online players here. The WTO was set up to protect fair and free trade among its members, and it has ruled that it considers online gambling to be a product that should be freely traded. It’s hard to believe that the US won’t face more lawsuits now that it has taken a stricter approach at curbing online gambling. A precedent has even already been established. Tiny Waves In 1994, Antigua and Barbuda was one of the first nations of the world to embrace online gambling, and since then the little island nation has become a hub of online businesses who have embraced regulation. Antigua and Barbuda joined the World Trade Organization as a charter member in 1995. So far, 30 companies are licensed by Antigua and Barbuda’s Division of Gaming. The Division of Gaming constantly monitors its licensees and suspends licenses whenever it finds infractions. The rules that the Division of Gaming follows have roots in New Jersey. Frank Catania of Catania Consulting Group, Inc. wrote most of the regulations. He’s a former director of gaming enforcement in New Jersey. Antigua and Barbuda’s book operators have historically faced prosecution from the US government. Three founding members of World Sports Exchange were indicted for fraud, racketeering, and other things a few years ago. One of the members tried to fight the charges, but was found guilty and spent several months in prison. The other two members haven’t been back to the US since. The arrests and the United States’ attempts at curbing online gambling prompted Antigua and Barbuda to file a complaint with the World Trade Organization in 2003. Antigua claimed that the US systematically violated the WTO’s General Agreement of Trade in Services (GATS) by trying to stop its residents from using services offered by companies located in Antigua. It took a year, but the WTO ruled in Antigua’s favor and struck down the US’s appeals in 2005, writing that US had adopted "measures" that interfered with its obligation to provide free trade in betting and gambling services with Antigua and Barbuda. Part of the US’s reasoning that claimed it was in the right to stop online gambling was that it believes that online gambling is morally wrong. The appellate body ruled that the US could not make that claim since it allows gambling on its shores. To date, the United States has essentially ignored the ruling. The US Trade Office has said that it would not ask Congress to weaken the gambling provisions that has been in place since the Wire Act became law in the late ’60s, and has given Antigua and Barbuda the silent treatment with this issue ever since. There’s no doubt that the size and economic power of Antigua made it easier for the US to ignore the WTO’s ruling. The future is hard to predict, but with so many dollars at stake, surely one nation will step up to the US and try to again swing away at this issue. It just may be one of the strongest nations in the world and one of our closest allies.
