How do you explain Artest having two torn ligaments in his foot and the Rockets not finding out about it until he sprained his ankle in the OK City game and subsequently had an mri? Surely that one can be blamed on the training staff. Also, Battier had routine surgery a long time ago. Why is he still not 100%? Who's responsible for that?
Wow, some of you guys sound a lot like those idiot GMs who blamed and fired their head coaches after a less-than stellar start to the season in Sacramento, Philly, Miami, OKC, Minny, etc... To be honest, none of us can have a fair assessment of the way the medical staff does their jobs just based upon how the players recover/don't recover from their injuries b/c medicine is NOT a simple practice. It is incredibly complex and each individual responds in unique ways. There must be a reason that Keith Jones has been around for so long AND chosen to the US team..."there is no better option" is a bs reason. Give it a rest guys and put the blame where it belongs...on Tmac!
I don't even take you seriously to be honest. I'll answer anyways. let's just say what you hear in the media isn't always the case. For example, nobody has a problem accepting our teams diagnosis that TMac is fit to play on his knee. However, when the same is said of Artest, people go nuts.. No big deal, it's good for a laugh to be honest. You were an adament Francis supporter as well.. He was "being held back by our staff" correct? Lol. You are one of those posters who has an agenda against certain players. In no way can you comprise an objective opinion. Battier's ankle injury was far worse then Artest's by the way. Just a little something you may like to know. Battier wasn't cleared to play (although we all know you hate the guy), but Ron was. I'm shocked you're making excuse for Ron. Can't believe it. In all honesty, even though I don't agree sometimes, I can see DD, Brooksball, ect.....opinions on things, and have a rational conversation with them. I simply think you don't know **** about basketball. Sorry, I'm an honest person.
Its a little strange hill, nash, and shaq plays more games than they did at their previous spots. It wasn't a coincidence that during their ring run, the bulls lost the least amount of games to injuries. Its strange to say the least, but sometimes, some medical staffs are better than others.
I completely agree. One or two seasons ... that's probably not enough evidence. But I think we have had more than enough evidence from the Rockets' medical staff and trainers. It looks like they simply do not know what they are doing. In the league every competitive advantage should be looked into, the Rockets fall short in the area of medical personnel.
the rockets training staff is decent. not as good as it was when Falsone was running it in the championship years but its decent. the head trainer is this dude named Macha who is a decent trainer, although he comes from a football background. underneath him tho there are some really talented people. with tracy - keep in mind that he "trains" independently of the team. he has his own trainer, and yes, that guy is horrid and him combined with tracy's bad work ethic is why tracy's body is deteriorating so quickly. Yao trains (or used to) with Falsone, the same guy who is Olajuwon's personal trainer. that guy is awesome. kinda wish he would come back to the rockets honestly, but it prolly will never happen.
We can defend the medical staff all but we're just hiding from the truth. Some can say that using our bad medical staff is an excuse is plain pathetic, I say otherwise considering even Kenny Smith addressed this situation. Something is wrong with our medical staff. Either they're too lazy to check, or they're calling off and skipping necessary precautions to label our players as fully healthy and ready to play. I started worrying about our medical staff when Yao went down again last year. I started to worry even more when McGrady complained about constant soreness which our Medical staffs addressed as nothing serious, then results revealed his knee is busted. Then this season, Artest, Battier, Dorsey, Wafer, Brooks, Barry, McGrady, Rafer etc. have all gone down to injuries.
Then you shouldnt've answered to begin with. The rest of your post is just an irrational rant with some cussing at the end...Lol. Sounds like what a woman does when she gets excited and can't control her emotions. Maybe we should call you Queen1? What does SF3 have to do with any of this? If we shouldn't believe everything we read, are you saying the media is lying when it comes to the Rockets? Are you an insider now? Please enlighten us if you can control your illogical tendencies. Reading is fundamental. Here's my post regarding Artest again: How do you explain Artest having two torn ligaments in his foot and the Rockets not finding out about it until he sprained his ankle in the OK City game and subsequently had an mri? You completely ignored this. Answer the question. You don't hold the training/medical staff responsible for this? If not, who's responsible for not knowing about this? Battier had surgery and had a few bone spurs removed from his ankle in May according to his doctor: http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2008...n_recpvering_from_surgery/UPI-14091210469681/ Ligaments in the ankle take on average 6 weeks to heal: http://www.orthofootankle.com/sections/Default/PostSurgery.asp Battier has had 8 MONTHS to heal from a routine surgery to remove a few bone spurs. Who do we hold accountable for the fact that he's not 100% after 8 MONTHS and has played poorly so far this season? You might be an honest person, but so is a fool and you haven't shown that you know anything about basketball, which is why I think you engage in name-calling. Stick to the issues that YOU brought up. Lets see if you'll answer the questions this time or avoid them like you did the first time.
Lol. I didn't call you any names? The only cursing I did was when I said I didn't think you know **** about basketball. You are actually the one you decided to refer to me as "Queen1." Sounds a bit hypocritical there doesn't it? The only reason I brought up Francis was to illustrate why I don't take your posts seriously. Almost everyone of them was filled with hate for Rafer or Battier, then undying support for Francis. As for me not knowing anything about bassketball, you're entitled to your opinion. All I said is don't believe everything you read in the media. Isn't that not a correct statement. Both good and bad. Give me a break. Are you serious about the two ligaments in Artests ankle? How would we find that out unless he was injured? He obviously passed a physical when he came here and the injury wasn't there. Otherwise, we would have known. Subsequently, he must have either injured them at some point during the season, and it came to light when he took the MRI. I shouldn't have had to explain this. As for Battier, he reagravated his injury. Who do I blame for Shane's slow star? That's easy, Shane. He was playing poorly. Injuries are a part of the game. It sucks as a fan , but our team is cursed with them. i don't even count TMac as i stated to be honest. So there you have it. I have answered all your questions. I'm not even being condecending, if I missed something, point it out, and I will answer it too.
This is true, there are good doctors and bad ones, just like any profession. But there are also injury prone people and healthy ones......sometimes it is about how you use your body.....Luis seems to rarely get off balance, and doesn't kill himself in the jumping arena....and I think he is healthier because of it. Tmac has always relied on sick athleticism, and that puts wear and tear on a body..... So, sometimes it is gentics, sometimes bad doctors, and sometimes it is a product of how you play. Good discussion though. DD
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the Rockets said that the two ligament problems were the result of an old injury. Why did they miss this during the physical? Isn't the point of a sports physical to determine if the player has an existing injury?
a lot of players (and people really) have minor injuries like slight tears or sprains that they dont really know about or care about because they are non-limiting.
The Rockets said the injury appeared to be from years of playing streetball. Now, we are all just guessing on this because none of us were there, but that could mean a variety of things. I'm not going to speculate on that , because all I have to go on was that little tid bit. It could have meant years of streetball loosened the ligaments and made him more succeptable to injury, ect...I'd be merely guessing as I'm not a doctor. I'm still a little confused on a lot of this though. Our staff has cleared Ron to play. That was quoted in another thread. It is Artest who is taking this time off. Again, when you are cleared to play by a medical staff, I think you should be playing. Just like Tracy. I'll say it again, we have terrible luck with injuries. Nobody can control Yao from breaking his foot. Hamstring and ankle injuries happen all the time in every sport. Yao has a personal trainer as does TMac. That's their decision. Personally, I would like the organization to make Tracy train with the team. That's on management though. My point being in all of this is how c an you honestly knock the guy who was named Head Trainer for Team USA? Seriously. It's a lot harder for trainers to garner that type of respect then players.
