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One of the Funniest Things I Have Ever Seen (It's About Nickelback)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Manny Ramirez, Apr 23, 2004.

  1. peleincubus

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    maybe i dont but i like to beileve i like something because of the way it sounds, not if its "underground"

    i think the newest stuff that i have liked thats really popular is the strokes, the white stripes, and outkast. but then again i have liked the last two groups i mentioned since about the day there 2nd cd's came out.

    overall (although i do think it goes in cycles) the general public likes crappy music. most of its very bland and doesnt take many chances. pretty much tries to sound like everything else that has been popular for a while. so they can make MONEY.

    i may be wrong but for whats most popular these days has more then i think ever had to do with how you look. the more attractive you are the better. which has nothing to do with the music.
     
  2. RocketsPimp

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    What's suprising is it took this guy the better part of a couple of years and someone actually laying the tracks on top of each other to figure out that all of their crap is actually the same song regurgitated. It doesn't exactly take a trained ear to hear it.
     
  3. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    f4p,

    Bully for you that you like this type of music. No one is holding a gun to your head saying that you shouldn't like it. However, many people, including myself, like our music with a little variety, non-derivative, and absent of blandness. It is like that Brandon guy said - that is all that is on the radio today, which thankfully I only have to listen to if there is something wrong with my CD player. Maybe your tastes will change; I know my did 4 years ago.

    Sorry if you think I am a music "snob" but I only call things the way I see them and Nickelback like Creed, Britney, etc are nothing more than a pile of crap.

    BTW - Go out and buy or borrow "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd and "Led Zeppelin IV" and listen to both albums all the way through. You may like only one or both or none at all, but I am guessing that there is a whole world of music out there that is unknown to you. It was for me 4 years ago.;)
     
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  4. junglerules

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    As a huge Counting Crows fan myself for the past 10 years, I have a pretty good idea of where they've come from. They pretty much gained their rep from intense and captivating live shows in the Cali bay area, and really caught their big break when they were able to take Van Morrison's place in a performance at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Sometime around then, Mr. Jones came out, and that was that....HUGE album sales never to be exceeded again. However, they still have a solid foundation of fans who follow them, cherish the live shows, and all that. Like any other band that manages to stick around, the fans b*tch and moan one way or the other about selling out, popularity, and so forth. I'll save that for another discussion, though. However, I just wanted to say that they've been a band that's definitely paid their dues through persistent touring, and they're probably even bigger in some places overseas than they are here, like London or Amsterdam. Their music has most definitely evolved over time, and while nothing will ever match AAEA to me, the other albums have been pretty damn good, too, IMO.

    I do agree there is a lot of crap out there, but I try to constantly remind myself that: a) music is subjective. As much as I want to call something "crap," I have a hard time saying art is crap because it is an opinion and what one derives from it. (Now, whether some of the stuff on the radio is even "art" is another story!) b) There is a backlash effect, even within the stable of fans each band or artist has. If a band gets too popular, it's own fans will turn on them at times, even if they are popular due to their hard work rather than some means of radio execs force feeding them down our throats. I guess once fans latch on to something they really like, they have a hard time sharing that with people they don't feel will appreciate it as much. It's an interesting dynamic, the relationship people can develop with their favorite entertainers. Often a scary one, too, and I think a song like Eminem's "STAN" somewhat brought that to life. People are fanatical about their favorite music, and while I respect that people care, some people out there need to calm it down! I'm not referring to this board, but just those people who think every song written by an artist is "about them" or "for them." Uhhh, no....I'm thinking it's probably not!

    Oh, and Isabel- Hard Candy isn't my favorite, but I think there are some awesome songs on there. Up All Night, Goodnight LA, RMID, Miami, Holiday in Spain....I think those matchup with lots of their other stuff in terms of great music and lyrics. FYI- if you check out their site, they have a new song coming out via soundtrack, and you can hear it on their official site.
     
  5. Isabel

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    There is always going to be a backlash by those who are "cooler than thou" against anything that has gotten too popular. Keeping that in mind, a lot of the stuff circulated on the radio, etc., is pretty low quality. (referring also to what Manny was saying earlier) The sad thing is, some of us know that and we buy it anyway. Because we don't know what else to listen to. Unless you happen to have a friend listening to it, where are you going to hear stuff for the first time?

    I'm thinking of subscribing to Rhapsody or some other such <i>legal</i> download service for the purpose of just checking stuff out. I'll need a broadband connection first, though, and I'm still trying to decide when I should spend the money on that. I'll be happy to buy someone's CDs if I know I'm going to like them first, but I don't have enough $$ to just experiment like that.

    Thanks... I should put in my Hard Candy CD and set it to play in random order. That way, I might appreciate some of the stuff towards the end of it. The only ones I've been able to get into are RMID and the title track.

    (We used to joke about Adam being "whiny" in his songs, and we said there ought to be a Counting Crows drinking game where you take a drink every time he says the word "sleep". But, oddly enough, I kind of miss those melodramatic, depressed songs now that he doesn't seem to be doing them.)

    It took me a long, long time to really warm up to "Recovering the Satellites", but I love it now. Maybe this one will be the same way. AAEA, of course, has stayed in my regular rotation for the last ten years and I'm still not sick of it. I have to watch when I play it in my office because I <i>will</i> sing along with the entire thing... best to do it when no one else is up there.
     
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    based on the many pink floyd songs i've heard on classic rock radio in my time, i would sooner blow my head off than listen to dark side of the moon all the way through (well maybe just hit myself in the head with a hammer). i find their songs outside of "another brick in the wall" to be highly annoying (even "money" or whatever it's called).

    now led zeppelin, they've got lots of songs i like but they most likely are not all on LZ IV so i won't be taking you up on that offer either.

    my main point wasn't that you can't like whatever you want (as we all do), it was that you seem to always make sure everyone knows you're as far away from what you used to love as possible. like see guys, i called nickelback assclowns, i really don't like that stuff. i'm all about led zeppelin and pink floyd, revel in my credibility. that is my point. overzealousness.

    you know, i think your version of heaven would be to have all the music ever made, all the time in the world to listen to it, and you're the dj. and your version of hell would be to have all the music ever made, all the time in the world to listen to it, and i'm the dj.
     
  7. Hippieloser

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    Listen to Black Sabbath.
     
  8. Coach AI

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    Heee.

    Music threads in this forum always crack me up.:D
     
  9. junglerules

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    I think the lyrics to much of the songs haven't changed tremendously, while the music is much fuller as they've experimented with bringing so much instrumentation into the songs. Don't get me wrong- AAEA is still my favorite by far, and I can listen to it over and over without it ever getting old because it's so passionate and soulful. However, it's also pretty "skeletal and bare," compared to the newer stuff. That's part of its charm, but a lot of the stuff off AAEA has been redone somewhat in concert.

    I think that AAEA is my favorite, and the other three studio albums take turns as number 2. Usually it's RTS, but it just depends on my mood. I think they are all tremendous top to bottom, but AAEA seems to be the only one where I never feel like skipping a track. On RTS, I sometimes don't want to listen to I'm Not Sleeping, CIB, or Mercury. On TDL, it's Colorblind or High Life that I jump over here and there, and on Hard Candy, the New Frontier and Carriage back to back has me skip. Not bad songs, just not nearly my favorite.

    Oh, and have you heard the song August and Everything After yet, Isabel? If you didn't know, it was finally played in concert in Cali at the end of '03. People had been wanting to hear it for years, and now it's available on the Hanginaround remix import at Amazon.com. Pretty interesting song, and definitely in the vein of all that older stuff that came out with that album. Check it out if you have the chance....
     
  10. Uprising

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    That is hilarious. What a bunch of trash this garage band is.

    OH MY GOD....they mix together so well. LMAO.
     
  11. Manny Ramirez

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    Well, you should listen to albums like "The Wall" or "Wish You Were Here" and even "Animals". No 2 Floyd albums are alike. I just mentioned "Dark Side of the Moon" because that album was their best seller and most well-known.

    Now, I think you are just being difficult for difficult's sake. "Houses of the Holy" and "Led Zeppelin II" are even better albums than "Led Zeppelin IV". Once again, just like with Floyd, I mentioned "Led Zeppelin IV" because that is the most well-known album of Zep. There is a reason why many Zep fans can't bring themselves to say "Stairway to Heaven" is the best Zep song because they don't like the fact that it has been overplayed to death. You might even like "In Through the Out Door" (their last real studio album) as it has more of a synth feel to it and I feel is more poppy.

    Well, whatever. If you really feel like that, I guess there is nothing I can say to change your mind. But I will say that, honestly, I could care less about what you or anyone else thinks about my "credibility" when it comes to music. It is just an Internet message board, man - not f*cking Rolling Stone. But, I guess I should feel honored that you would say that because I am thinking that you are indirectly wanting to know what I think about certain groups when it comes to music. I just like to talk about music and maybe I do come across a little too strong, sometimes, but I call things the way I see them. I am not calling Nickelback "assclowns" because I think "assclown" is a cute word; I am calling them that because they, er, really are assclowns.


    :D

    Hey, it is your opinion. If you think Nickelback is good stuff and you enjoy listening to them, then that is great. I am of the opinion that they suck and I will find other artists to enjoy listening to. You can tell me that Floyd sucks, if it will make you happy. It doesn't bother me because it is your opinion anyway.

    I like you, f4p, and I hope you won't be offended by my post; if you are, then I am sorry. It is just that you remind me a lot of myself. When I was 22 to 24, I might have had 5 to 10 CDs and they all were Celine Dion ones (which I still have by the way). Maybe, your tastes will change as you get older like mine did, but if they don't, then there is nothing wrong with it. I may go ahead and keep giving you a hard time:p ;) , but the main thing is if you get enjoyment out of the artist, that is all that should matter.
     
  12. francis 4 prez

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    and i'll be right here to give you one. but we'll always be able to agree that jennifer lopez sucks (or is an assclown i guess).
     
  13. KellyDwyer

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    I'd like to clown around on that ass.
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

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    IDIOT.
     
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    Some of my friends and I were discussing the sad state of rock music these days and I said that now, there are two kinds of rock:
    1. Sissy rock- Designed mostly for girls, with stupid, sensitive lyrics and prissy singers. Example- Matchbox 20, 3 Doors Down
    2. Ugly rock- Designed for boys, with godawfully ugly "musicians" who turn up the distortion and play angry. Example- Linkin Park, Korn.

    Music in general has gone down the ****ter as the youth's tastes have gone to whatever the corporate giants tell them to like and play incessantly on the radio.

    Where are the Led Zeppelins and the Beatles of this era? DMB is excellent, Phish is a great band, Lenny Kravitz was pretty decent, but for the most part, as Lenny said, rock and roll is dead.

    Creed to me is one of the worst bands ever. His singing reminds me of the line from the Weird Al song "Smells like Nirvana."
    Open your mouth and sing, damn you, Scott Crapp!!!!!
     
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    I guess you guys have never heard of Jack Johnson? Not only do his songs sound extremely similar to each other...some of them use the same EXACT chord progresssions and strumming patterns.
     
  17. Manny Ramirez

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    Jeff,

    I think this is the thread that others were referring to in reference to Nickelback.
     
  18. fadeaway

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    I'm still blown away about how identical these two songs are. I don't think that anything is sped up, either.
     
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    "Some Day" is sped up. The clip that was posted is only 3:09 minutes long. The original is approximately 20 seconds longer.
     
  20. Falcons Talon

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    I say to each his own.
    A song/band that does it for one person may not do it for another. Same thing for movie's. I like what I like and that's all that matters to me. I'm not a big music fan...I still have a cassette player in my car, and I'm not buying a cd player for it. I hear stuff on the radio, and if I don't like what I'm hearing, I change the station nor turn it off. Music just is not important enough for me to warrant me losing any time or sleep over, what I consider, non-issues, but like I said, to each his own.

    As far as the two songs lining up, I think it's odd and cool at the same time.
     

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