Man, I'm starting to like you a lot more B-Bob...you seem to have a pretty good personality, humor and mind set.
Is this some sort of trick? Seriously, careful man, or our parties will disown us and then rimbaud will come in and tell us to shut up or something. Best we just share a manly handshake and go off in our separate ways. (oh god, don't let me get a Journey thread going again. noooooo...)
Only if she chose not to renounce such citizenship. At the time she was born, the dual citizenship issue was still pretty murky in the United States. It wasn't clear that it was legal to be a citizen of another country and the United States at the time. And a person born in France now to American parents would not be French citizens unless they meet some other requirements of residency (here's the official website on that for those who speak French: http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/etrangers/vivre/nationalite/index.html )
My point was that you claimed she couldn't be French because "since she was born to American parents." That is simply incorrect. These days, if you're born in France and you live there long enough...you automatically become French under French law, you don't have to renounce or declare anything.
I didn't say she couldn't be French because of that. I just said being born there didn't automatically make her French now, as the title of this thread says she is. And I would venture to guess that neither one of us knows very much about the laws governing dual citizenship circa 1956 NOR her specific citizenship. But I will pretty well guarantee that she's not French right now. But even what you posted goes against the idea that being born there automatically makes you a French citizen today, which seemed to be what you were claiming when you were miscorrecting me. So, I'm not sure why you're posting something that agrees with what I posted in an apparent attempt to contradict what I posted. EDIT: Not to mention that the thread title says she's French. At the most, she would be both French AND American because she was born to American parents (and the thinking seems to be that she would still be considered a natural born American citizen for purposes of things like being President), and that's if she was a French citizen at all, something that isn't necessarily able to be determined merely by her place of birth.
I posted it to contradict this. "She was born in Paris, France, though that doesn't make her French since she was born to American parents. " which it pretty clearly does. It implies that France is a jus sanguinis country....which it isn't. It's a jus solis country.
Fellas, fellas! Can't you see that this is the M.O. of the French... Their whole goal is to seed discord among Flag-lovin' Americans. They just want you arguing so they can sneak the terraist' in.
It does no such thing. It's an article about immigration laws passed in 1998. How does that contradict something that happened in 1956? And not to mention, my message was that she's not French NOW (and never was just French like you keep saying and like the original post said). She may well have briefly been a French citizen, but given the time of her birth and the fact that she was born to two Americans and the way the law in the United States was AT THE TIME, it's extremely unlikely that she kept her dual citizenship. I'm sorry that I didn't get long-winded enough to explain all the reasons why she's not French now and stopped it with mentioning the being born to American parents (which made her American at birth, as well, not just French as the thread title and first message implies) and let the rest of it be implied. But she was an American at birth. She may have briefly been French, too, but it's clear she maintained the American citizenship. And she never was just French (which is what the thread title says), and she's most certainly not French now like the first message says. It's a jus solis country. Not completely. Not at this point for people born to American parents. If Karen Hughes had been born in 1999, she may well not be eligible for French citizenship at age 18. And you posted something that has to do with laws passed in the 1990s. I'm not sure how that was supposed to contradict something posted about someone born in the '50s. But fine. If you want her to be French. She's French. I'm sure she votes in French elections and had a French passport and everything.
Has anyone taken a close look at the fingernails of this Frenchy, Karen Lisette Hughes? She looks kind of familiar to me.
Why is it so important to you that she not be French? And who the hell ever said she was "just French"?
A little known fact is that John Forbes Kerry attempted to defer his service in Vietnam for a year while he studied in Paris, France. I guess he wanted to explore his political roots with other socialists.
Also interesting that Richard Bruce Cheney never completed his doctoral work at the University of Wisconsin. Perhaps he was only there to strip the local environment of cheese before he discovered his true love: oil.
Yeah, they're all completely boring and robotic middle names. I think it has been a long-term strategy of the RNC so that they can attack other middle names with abandon. John David Ashcroft Donald Henry Rumsfeld Colin Luther Powell Condoleeza.exe V5.2 Rice etc.
I'm not blaming you for this, but isn't the stupidist thing about this that you even have to point this out? Ok, we did the nose...
