One man's resistance: 'Why I turned against America'

The guy they interviewed in that piece is an idiot.

 

Damn, interesting article, thanks.

RR, you're african american? I always pictured you as an old white guy, sipping brandy and smoking a cigar.

 

you made my day

honestly . . .
I step back from alot of the race debates because they got too
intense and personal for me. . .

Sippin brandy . .writing Haiku

Rocket River

 

Sadly enough, I've found that it's prevalent in almost every country I've been to. In fact, the only exceptions I can think of are the UK, Canada, Brazil, the Carribean and Scandinavia. The rest of Western Europe in particular was really disappointing on this issue.

 

me neither. Ive lived in Saudi, bahrain, and visited many more. As far as I knew there was no racial issue with ones skin color, especially black, because one of the first Muslims was black, and he was teh one who was at the prophets side the whole time.

This trip too, i saw black and white arabs just chillin kickin it back...

 

i've heard racism in the UK is really strong.

blair pointed out that no one who is black in the UK ever gets to the point that a man like colin powell has reached here.



it surprises me from the middle east, mostly because i would assume there's so much contact among muslim believers with the pilgrimage to mecca from all racial backgrounds. maybe i've just seen Malcom X too many times!

 

He's certainly not a paragon of rationality but then again war is rarely rational and there's a lot more people like him.

 

I am just going by what I have witnessed in personal visits. However, you may very well be right. And there were several police incidents in the news there this past year involving blacks that were unfairly targeted. Still I would imagine it is nothing like what goes on in the Far East, Middle East, or Western Europe. I mean I have found that the N word is the actual primary way that they have of referring to blacks in those places.

 

did you just lump the middle east and the far east in there for fun. Most asians, and middle easterns dont even know the N word, nor does it hold any negative value for them.

 

Gassed Kurdish refugees from 1988 incident. Use the right button of your mouse, click on "properties" and look at the URL for the site.

btw- the claims that we "supported" Saddam just because we weren't yet bombing him are as logical as saying that we currently support Kim Jong Il in N. Korea... just because we haven't bombed him yet.

 

Well, we did support Saddam as a counterweigh to Iran, both in material and in intelligence. However, those that say 'we propped him up' don't really tell the whole story either. One only has to look at Saddam's military to see that he was supported by most of the major world powers (the US/France/Germany/Soviet Union-Russia/China). MOST of his material support really was from France(Mirages/Exocets), the Soviet Union(MiGs/Tanks), and the PRC (SCUD technology/Silkworms). That was standard practice in the Cold War for any country not strictly aligned one way or the other (as in India where many of the weapons were Soviet but they played both sides).

 

Fun

Nothing has been lumped in with anything. I am posting from my personal experiences in this places. So apparently the ppl in these places do know the N word and use it liberally. Let me give you an ACTUAL instance from Dubai so that you can understand where I'm coming from:

"The N***** Michael Jordan - he is very good....I have seen him on TV, NBA Playoffs.....You have watched him in person before?"

And sadly enough, that was from someone who appeared to actually admire some black ppl but just didn't know the right way to express it. I won't post here the real derogatory venom that I've mostly heard.

 

Ok, 2 things need to be clarified.
1. They get these things from movies and rap videos, they see one black person saying it to another, hence thinking its the norm
2. I dont think they know how derogatory the word is

ok and a 3rd thing
3. what race were the people that were using this term in that sentence..

 

1. You are probably right on that
2. Some may not, but many were definitely anti-black - and not just by their words but w/ their actions as well
3. Arab

 

Very accurate. The whole story indeed. Much to learn, the young ones have.

 

Yes, and that is a serious problem for us in Iraq.

But it doesn't make us Occupiers. We are not murderers. Nor are we police.

American soldiers have given their Life for this cause, the US has spent billions of dollars, and this bureaucrat has the audacity to say that we don't care.

How does the old saying go? "Freedom is not free."

 

We are occupiers. George W. Bush has called us occupiers. When the commander in chief says the country is an occupier it's hard to argue the point.

The U.S. has also murdered folks there. That's the horror of the prison abuse scandal. We don't know that U.S. troops did the killing, but folks contracted by the U.S. did the killing, and U.S. troops did some raping. I certainly don't believe that's the norm of U.S. troop behavior in Iraq, but it did happen, and it's something anti-U.S. fighters can point to.

 

No we supported him because we were giving him, money, intel, supplies, etc. We supported him because when the UN wanted to issue a resolution against Saddam's gassing of his own people it was the U.S. that was against that resolution.

When the U.S. is stopping the UN from speaking out against the gassings, that equals U.S. support.

 

Notice that my Occupiers is capitalized. Of course, we are occupiers but that is a temporary condition. To me the guy's rant had the implication that we are imperialists and we have never done that to another nation.

Unfortunately, any war will drag along those kinds of crimes with it. That kind of problem has been ever-present throughout history. This guy's claim seems to be that our entire effort is murderous and that just boils me.

The resistance is killing 50 young men at a time who are seeking to join the police force while this guy b****es about the US not doing enough policing....