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On 2nd thought Tracy McGrady might be able to help us

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Big Dogzz, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. chenjy9

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    Even with RA's shortcomings, RA wins and has gotten past the first round.
     
  2. Salvy

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    Yet you are here mushing it up, this wont end man..... Maybe Bosh can unite this forum once again and forget about T-Mac. For a while I mean.....
     
  3. chenjy9

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    I can't wait until T-Mac leaves and takes his entire posse of worshipers to whatever team he will be joining. What I can't stand is people trying to pin bash a proven NBA coach that is leading our team to yet another winning season with no allstar level talent and continue to root for a failure of a player that has quit on and burned bridges with EVERY team he has ever played for.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    Clutch should just ban the word T-Mac and whatever names he is associated with. He isn't even playing on the team anymore.
     
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    i completely agree...it was all a plan to get rid of him
     
  6. waytookrzy079

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    See: Steve Francis Threads and Posts.. lol

    I dont see how he QUIT on the team..i see it as "He quit on himself". I can guarantee that most of the TMAC trash talkers have never played with or suffered a major injury and attempt to make a comeback from it.

    He put his own career at risk last year trying to play hurt and a knee that wasn't right.

    He carried the team in 07-08 in the playoffs on a bad shoulder and knee.

    He did what was asked of him this year, worked his @$$ off over the summer...spoke his mind abt wanting more mins and now has been banished from the team.

    I think RA and DM could have handled differently and let him play through it a bit. Maybe increase his mins in January to abt 10-12 mins, eventually up to abt 20 mins off the bench. There's no way he could do worst than Ariza.

    But what's done is done.. Time for a new Era..
     
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    and that's the bottom line.

    he's gone so it is what it is. i still dont think he could do any worse than ariza and i think mcgrady's game would complement arizas game.

    but it's time to move on now.
     
  8. MrAwe

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    Exactly what I was thinking. Although it was justified after last year, I also think the Rocket Org. should leave the personal stuff off the court and do what is best for the team.
     
  9. MrAwe

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    It's funny how one of the most winning coaches in basketball never won a ring. It's funny how he led the team to lose 8 first round series, and missed the playoffs twice. It's funny how we judge T Mac for never making past the first round, yet we ignore that Adelman has more first round losses than T Mac.

    Coaches do influence the game as much as you think. Don't believe me? Look at what Mike Brown is doing to the Cavs.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Tracy would be able to help us - if he got healthy and just trusted the coaching staff.

    He said he understood what Adelman was doing and was on the same page - apparently not.

    T-mac could have stayed a Rocket. He really could have. Even at the end, all he had to do was get with the program.

    He didn't. He couldn't listen to his coach. And it was his choice to ask for a trade. What's the point in asking if he could help us or not? Obviously he could. But only on his terms. And that was no longer going to work.
     
  11. chenjy9

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    If you want to argue that RA has more first round exits than T-Mac, that's fine. Let me ask you this then. How many teams have made it into the 2nd round without T-Mac? I will let you figure that one out. On top of that, let me ask you this as well... How many superstars (I am saying superstar because obviously you assume T-Mac to be one) have never made it to the 2nd round? RA has always been a successful coach and coaches have great influence on the team. You think players draw up the X and O's by themselves? Players do have a lot of independence, but that comes from experience. Coaches are still needed to make important decisions, such as what plays to run, what offense the team plays, when to sub a player, and when to call in a time out.
     
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    So T-Mac was the only member of the Rockets when the Rockets failed to advance.... Well sure right, forget the other group of guys who also put on a uniform and you know played in those games......
     
  13. MrAwe

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    You are absolutely right, and by my post, I have no intention of saying that RA is a bad coach, in fact he is pretty dam good. BUT, some posts seem to be going to the direction that RA and DM are saints and they never make mistakes. I was simply pointing out that even "one of the most winning coaches" has flaws.

    Although the Rocket Org could definitely have found a way to fit T Mac into rotation and have him be benefitial. They chose not too, mainly due to all the drama. In a way, they did screw T Mac over, even though it was justified. My point is, the Org. should've left all the personal stuff off the court, and concentrate on getting us the championship.
     
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    Ohh, and not to mention that it was all based on our assumption that T Mac was giving up on the team. It could also easily have been the other way around: i.e. T Mac needed rest, RA said no and played him through injury till a point that T Mac couldn't take anymore and shut it down... etc.

    Just keep in mind, the media is all powerful. They can make us think Michael Jackson wants to be white, they can make us forget Kobe rap3d some woman, and surely they can make T Mac an outcast.
     
  15. Salvy

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    Well all of this that happened with T-Mac seemed plan but Mcgrady was clearly not aware... The 7 minutes a game were prob not ever in the playbook therefor no, coach did not know how to insert Mcgrady without it becoming a huge problem if Mcgrady all of a sudden did play good basketball. Morey is up to something, and it might just be a good thing for the Rockets.....
     
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    just give it a rest people, t-mac is done a a rocket.

    but why are we surprised? this HAS happened before.

    http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/2...ck-adelman-has-dismissed-star-players-before/
     
  17. chenjy9

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    Don't get me wrong though, there are a lot of things that RA does that has made me do everything from scratch my head to curse and shake the TV. Overall though, he is a great coach and when he said that T-Mac is not ready to help us win, I am inclined to take his word for it, especially if it is against T-Mac's word.
     
  18. chenjy9

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    Leopards can't change their spots and T-Mac has quit on other teams before. Kobe was accused of raping a woman with more than one person's little soldiers inside her. He was never found guilty so what is there to forget? US believes (supposedly) that you are innocent until proven guilty.
     
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    Amen, Brother!! I can't wait till this is all over and Tracy's fan boys go with him. It's kinda like a crazy girlfriend that you can't get rid of and they keep showing up at your house and calling you on the phone asking you what went wrong. You finally just have to tell them "Your Whats Wrong, Crazy B!tch, leave me alone".
     
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