OMG! Relaxing pot laws doesn't cause minors to use more!

Congrats on making it big. Obviously you did something right between getting high. But how many kids aren't as smart as you and waste their lives getting high? Is one too many?

Oh, and I guess your a pro at frisbee golf, too.

Judgemental? Closeminded? If that's what you want to call it. I don't think minors should be smoking cigarettes much less pot. I'm not niave even to believe it will stop, but in my own little perfect world it would not happen.

 

Maybe you should have tried it at 5.

Mom let son use crack, officials say
5-year-old boy reported using the drug 3 times


By Terry Horne
terry.horne@indystar.com

August 14, 2004


A former child-care worker is facing a child neglect charge after she helped her 5-year-old son smoke crack cocaine in her home, authorities said.

Her son told an interviewer that he had taken his mother's "medicine" three times.

Andrea Wilkey, 40, 700 block of East 93rd Street, was arrested after the boy tested positive for crack cocaine on Aug. 7.

Marion County Prosecutor Carl Brizzi said the boy told his grandmother what he had done and she took him to St. Vincent Hospital.

According to police, she told health care workers that her grandson was "acting funny." After a toxicology report revealed cocaine, a Child Protection Services caseworker was assigned to the case.

Brizzi termed the case horrendous.

"Sharing a crack pipe with your 5-year-old is no way to bond," he said.

The good news, he said, is that the boy appears to be OK.

At the hospital, the boy was taken into custody and then released into his grandmother's temporary care.

The caseworker and Marion County Sheriff's Detective Julie McHenry interviewed Wilkey on Sunday.

She admitted that she had smoked crack cocaine on Aug. 6 from a homemade "bong," a baby food jar with a glass pipe and tubing.

Wilkey said she left the room. When she returned, her son was sitting at the table before the bong. He said, "Come on. Let me do it," according to Wilkey.

The mother said she then used a lighter to ignite the crack cocaine, turning off the lighter after she saw smoke coming from her son's mouth.

Wilkey said she took her son to her mother's house the following day so she could go to a job interview.

Wilkey told investigators that she had been using cocaine "on and off" for about 10 years, and that her son had seen her using the bong before.

A spokeswoman with the Indiana Family and Social Services Administration, which oversees CPS, could not be reached for comment.

When the boy was interviewed Monday, he said his mother took her medicine by placing white powder in a bowl and lighting it. The boy said, "I did it, too."

Brizzi said Wilkey had been employed as a child care worker at the Julian Center, a shelter for battered women. Ann DeLaney, executive director of the center, could not be reached for comment Friday night.

According to bail records, Wilkey had been working for about a month for a medical firm before her arrest.

She was being held in the Marion County Jail; bail was set at $25,000. An initial plea of not guilty was entered on her behalf during an initial hearing this week.

 

Let's not steer this off into "mothers letting their 5-year-olds smoke crack" territory. We're talking about less aggressive enforcement of mar1juana laws, not sh!tty parenting.

 

Andy was the one who brought up coke, not me.

 

Who cares? Let's just stick to pot.

 

proportionally speaking, about the same amount as kids who dont smoke pot. not all pot smokers are slackers and not all who slack are pot smokers.

 

Dude, I run like 2 miles a day, sometimes right after a smoke session. Sometimes during. It seriously helps when I have shin splints.

 

How do you turn this into it is helping more than hurting? All that people are doing now is taking less pot with them when they travel, and not getting busted for it.

It's processed 18 cases prepared to 70 last year -- how many of those were minors? This doesn't really prove anything. Weed is illegal. If you want to smoke, go to Canada.

 

Chrsit, I'm proof positive of this. In 6th grade, it was MUCH easier to obtain anything illegal than it was to obtain alcohol or even tobacco. Hmm....heroin vs. beer....

Abso-f*cking-lutely. Legalize, taxate, regulate, educate. Personally, my biggest problem with the "war" on drugs is that I cannot stand the fact that there are laws telling me what I can and cannot do with my own body. Legalize.

 

I agree. We must stop the kids from having sex.

Dating linked to teens' higher risk of drug use

New study finds those with friends who have sex are more likely to try substance abuse

By COURTNEY C. RADSCH
New York Times

WASHINGTON - The words of an old proverb — "Tell me who you walk with, and I'll tell you who you are" — gained new meaning on Thursday with the release of a national study showing that teenagers whose friends were sexually active were more likely to smoke, drink or use illegal drugs.


Teenagers who reported that at least half of their friends were sexually active were 31 times likelier to get drunk, 5 1/2 times likelier to smoke and 22 1/2 times likelier to have tried mar1juana, according to the study, released by the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University.

'Message for parents'
"It's a clear message for parents," said Joseph Califano, the center's chairman and president. "The thunder of teen sexual activity and dating behavior may signal the lightning of substance abuse."



Califano was careful to point out that the results did not indicate that sexual activity caused substance abuse or vice versa, but rather indicated an increased risk. He said that 14.1 million Americans ages 12 to 17 were at medium or high risk of substance abuse, and that the risk was "tightly connected" with sexual behavior and dating. For example, as the amount of time spent with a boyfriend or girlfriend increases, so does the risk of substance abuse. A teenager who spends 25 or more hours a week with a boyfriend or girlfriend is five times likelier to get drunk and 4 1/2 times likelier to use mar1juana than a counterpart who spends less than 10 hours with a significant other, the survey found.


Thirty-one percent of the teenagers surveyed said they had a boyfriend or girlfriend, which increased their average risk. The study also found that girls who dated boys who were at least two years older were more than twice as likely to drink, 4 1/2 times as likely to smoke and six times likelier to get drunk or to try mar1juana.


The survey showed that 11.5 million teenagers had friends who regularly viewed Internet p*rnography and downloaded it, and that a teenager with a majority of friends who did so was "three times more likely to smoke, drink or use illegal drugs than a teen who has no such friends."



'Parental denial'
The study, the ninth National Survey of American Attitudes on Substance Abuse, asked about the attitudes of a teenager's friends, as a surrogate for the teenager's own behavior, said Steve Wagner, president of QEV Analytics, the company that conducted the survey. "Teens that tell you more than half their friends smoke mar1juana are much more likely to have tried it themselves," Wagner said in an interview.



At a news conference, Califano said one finding that had stayed consistent since the first study, in 1995, was the "tremendous parental denial" about teenagers and drug use.


The survey found that although drugs continued to be the biggest concern of teenagers, only 12 percent of parents saw drugs as their teenager's top concern. But parents saw drugs and alcohol as the most important problem facing them, as parents, with a majority saying they believed it was unrealistic to expect that a teenager would never try an illegal drug, and most perceived a correlation between drug and alcohol use and sexual activity.


The survey interviewed 1,000 teenagers and 500 of their parents at random by telephone.


The teenagers' survey had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points; the margin for the parental survey was plus or minus 4 percentage points.

 

Ahhhh, yes. It's Bush's fault.

 

He's talking about the current drug policy, not the current administration.

Your judgemental, closemindedness is not because of your individual beliefs on drug policy, but because of your stupid stereotyping comments about hacky-sacking, frisbee-golf, etc. Heck, the entire X-Games culture wouldn't exist if everyone thought like you - and that would be a sad thing - those "sports" are fun, entertaining to watch and participate in and likely deter illegal drug use as much as influence it.

 

well, the thing is, as andy has explained a hundred times, under the plan he supports drug access to kids would be severely curtailed.. The war on drugs is NOT making it hard for kids to get drugs as it is...why stick with a system that is wasteful and doesnt work anyway?
You are gonna have kids not doing anything with their lives irregardless of whether or not they smoke pot...it isnt the substance that keeps them from doing stuff...it is being used as an excuse...

Lazy people are gonna be lazy whether they smoke pot or not.

heh...actually...never played it. Tho I do have some friends that want me to come join them for a game, but real life and family responsibilities interfere.

I must admit that part of my post was in reference to more than just this little thread...it came after reading your responses in the other threads.. You always seem so quick to judge a issue in black and white, which ignores the fact that every issue is not black and white...there is a grey area.

and btw....I dont think ANYONE wants minoirs to have access to cigs or drugs.....but our current laws and procedures sure as hell aint keeping them from either.

Far be it from me to argue with a man that has such great taste in sci-fi...thank you for your kind words..

 

I just wanted to say I really enjoy reading your posts related to this topic. As you could probably tell, I have an interest in this area as well and it's refreshing to read posts by people that can bring up sensible points and support their beliefs with good information. Then on the other hand, you have the assclowns who like to jump in these topics and instantly shoot it down, simply because "Drugs are bad." (See: Faos)

 

Carter made homebrewing legal, so lay off.