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Omer Asik Trade. Rumors, Tweets and Updates. (Deadline Dec 20th)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheDr34m, Dec 14, 2013.

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Garner said: ↑

When was the last time that doc rockets riddles lead to any truth, Even in retrospect?
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Dwight Howard. He was on that from the VERY beginning and never wavered.

#1901 BeardlyBeardman, Dec 18, 2013

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Read the damn article on CBS. NO ONE WILL TOUCH HIS 15 MILLION DOLLARS for NEX SEASON.
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As one executive said of Lin, "I'm not sure there are many, if any, takers for him right now."
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So one executive makes a point to say that there may or may not be any takers for Lin so it's a wrap? Morey could dump Lin if he wanted to. GS dumped trash Jefferson and Biedrins with a couple of picks.

Anyway, zcarenow just pwned you.

#1902 sammy, Dec 18, 2013
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BeardlyBeardman said: ↑

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Asik's decay makes way 4 new mainstay 2 purvey & display array of bombs away-If trade is made today, hey!yay!hooray! & URICH-A! So Pray!</p>— Doc Rocket (@Thedocrocket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/statuses/413291613696180224">December 18, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Richard Cho?

MKG and Biyombo please. With MKG's form, his jumpers are pretty much "bombs away." Package Lin and Canaan may be the "new mainstay." He can be the "bombs away" reference. The kid can shoot.

#1903 herro, Dec 18, 2013
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the wait is killing me. and doc rocket didnt help

#1904 TheRealAllpro, Dec 18, 2013
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Damn. Matt Moore going after Asik on twitter. And now this:

The Omer Asik sweepstakes is nearing its conclusion, and there are several teams still in the mix. Atlanta, Philadelphia, Boston, and Cleveland are said to be among the frontrunners, but Atlanta is a curious case. Basically, if you read between the lines of the reports, Houston has a lot of interest in trading for forward Paul Millsap. Atlanta, meanwhile, is an air-tight ship of non-leaks, and impossible to discern.

But on the surface, there doesn't appear to be much reason why the Hawks would want to trade Millsap for Asik. That's not to say it won't happen, but on its own, it doesn't appear to make sense. Let's break this down.

1. The money: Asik has a "poison pill" for 2014-2015. Wha that means is that while his cap number remains $8.3 million for next year, he will actually be paid nearly twice that at $15 million. Millsap, meanwhile, costs a flat $9.5 million For a team that doesn't see itself as a contender, and instead wants financial flexibility, why compromise yourself like that? The cap number is lower, sure, but you're still talking about $5 million more in actual payroll. Flexibility goes beyond the cap and into what ownership (always a complicated subject with Atlanta) is will willing to spend.

2. Paul Millsap is really good! Millsaps is averaging 17 points on 50 percent shooting with eight boards at a 14.2 percent rebound rate. For $9.5 million! Are you kidding me? I wouldn't move Paul Millsap to Houston unless Chandler Parsons or one of the Big Two are involved. Those are the only situations I'd get Millsap involved, and even then, you're going to have to pay Parsons close to $10 million a year after his rookie deal anyway.
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Read more here: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...omer-asik-trade-doesnt-make-sense-for-atlanta

#1905 Chuck 4, Dec 18, 2013
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BeardlyBeardman said: ↑

Dwight Howard. He was on that from the VERY beginning and never wavered.
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i felt the same way and never wavered too.

#1906 zcarenow, Dec 18, 2013
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For that price and his action, none wants him. I guess Rockets have to keep that sucker.

#1907 gorockets2009, Dec 18, 2013

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Asik is is owed $5mil for this season and $15mil next year. This makes his 2 year average salary at $10mil/year. If you want to say that because roughly 30% of the season has gone past, his average salary becomes $10.9mil/year. But even that number, $10.9mil/yr is overstating his salary a bit for the following reasons.
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He wasn't discussing Asik. 10M/yr is pretty much the going rate for Cs of Asik's calibre.

#1908 hooroo, Dec 18, 2013
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2. Paul Millsap is really good! Millsaps is averaging 17 points on 50 percent shooting with eight boards at a 14.2 percent rebound rate. For $9.5 million! Are you kidding me? I wouldn't move Paul Millsap to Houston unless Chandler Parsons or one of the Big Two are involved.
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Crack is wack.

#1909 Raven, Dec 18, 2013
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Damn. Matt Moore going after Asik on twitter. And now this:

Read more here: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...omer-asik-trade-doesnt-make-sense-for-atlanta
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if the hawks were like 10 games above 500 then i can understand why they wouldn't want asik, but they're a mediocre 13-12.

#1910 zcarenow, Dec 18, 2013
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Good point. I was just saying that because even though his tweet didn't make sense to me, several people were replying with things like "Millsap and Korver" rather definitively. So I was assuming they had been able to decipher that tweet, and I was hoping they would explain it to me cuz I dum.

I doubt it. Would be sweet, but unless Morey has slipped the Minny front office people some strong hallucinogens, it ain't happening.

Legit or not, he provides some entertainment.

Break down how that means we're getting LBJ, and I'll rep the **** out of you.
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4+2=6

LeBron wears #6.

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For that price and his action, none wants him. I guess Rockets have to keep that sucker.
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this would ideal actually. i know i would rather keep asik.

#1912 zcarenow, Dec 18, 2013
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Asik's decay makes way 4 new mainstay 2 purvey & display array of bombs away-If trade is made today, hey!yay!hooray! & URICH-A! So Pray!</p>— Doc Rocket (@Thedocrocket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/statuses/413291613696180224">December 18, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I think he's hinting about Lin being involved in Asik deal. If Lin goes in deal then it opens a spot for Cannan the notorious deep ball shooter. Then the reference to "So Pray".

Don't get the the URICH-A part. "U rich A" like "You're rich, A" ? Who is A?

#1913 BeardlyBeardman, Dec 18, 2013

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Everything rhymes in Doc's tweet so my thought process is that the player we are recieving rhymes with all those words (decay, mainstay, pruvey, display, etc)
However, I have yet to find someone that fits that mold that shoots 3's. (besides Ray Allen, but I doubt that is the case)
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How's about Kobay?! :grin:

#1914 markusbrutus, Dec 18, 2013
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if the hawks were like 10 games above 500 then i can understand why they wouldn't want asik, but they're a mediocre 13-12.
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Moore is one of those that think Horford playing out of position isn't a big deal.

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4+2=6

LeBron wears #6.
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Finally someone tells the truth.

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Asik is is owed $5mil for this season and $15mil next year. This makes his 2 year average salary at $10mil/year. If you want to say that because roughly 30% of the season has gone past, his average salary becomes $10.9mil/year. But even that number, $10.9mil/yr is overstating his salary a bit for the following reasons.

1. The Rockets can add $1.3mil in cash in any trade.
2. The payment plan for Asik is deferred. Since next year's $15mil salary only affects owners and not the cap, anyone who understand economics know that money is worth more now than in the future. So Asik's entire salary is depressed because the owner only has to pay him $3.5mil for the rest of this season. Which is super cheap.
3. His cap space is only $8.3mil/yr, which affect teams trying to stay under the luxury tax, like Boston.
4. The Rockets can take on additional salary. Up to possibility $4mil extra of cap filler to help alleviate any monetary issues.

The downside of any team that trades for Asik is that he becomes hard to trade next offseason season due to the ballon payment. However, he becomes instantly tradeable again by next year's trade deadline, after paying off majority of his balloon payment first. So it's really a minor inconvenience.
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No one said asik was hard to move. I'm talking about lin and his 15 million cap hit. What are you going on about?

#1917 Spiegel, Dec 18, 2013
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if the hawks were like 10 games above 500 then i can understand why they wouldn't want asik, but they're a mediocre 13-12.
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In the Leastern Con.

Agents for Horford and Asik are? Oh, really?

Who drives deals, agents/players or Boards?

Let's get this wrapped. Please.

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If were getting a PF and a SG, maybe that deal about us getting Thaddeus and MarShon had some truth to it?

#1919 Firebomb525, Dec 18, 2013
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No one said asik was hard to move. I'm talking about lin and his 15 million cap hit. What are you going on about?
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Huh? Their contracts are exactly the same.

Cap hits are identical.

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