What's up with the name calling? I have said I didn't mean to get on your case. I have said I only haev problem with your term "ugly little falsehoods" which is extreme when they didn't violate any rule. What do you not agree with? You talk like an extremist who gets paranoid when someone calls you out and sound like you are ready to take to violence or something. What's wrong with you? By the way, the footprints are CGI, but the fireworks is NOT fake. It has been widely reported in almost every single news source. Learn to read.
Whoever talks about the positive side of the Olympics are "paranoid chinese wacko-nationalist"? What do you call the ones who always defend Muslim? What derogatory term have you come up for them? You are low.
A passport, however, may not be undisputed documentation of a gymnast’s age. Yang Yun won two bronze medals at the 2000 Sydney Games, in the uneven bars and as a member of the Chinese team. The United States team finished fourth. Afterward, Yang said on state-run television that she was 14 when she competed at the Games. A Hunan Province sports administration report confirmed that. “The medal was supposed to be ours, and we should be given it,” said Karolyi, the coach of the 2000 United States team, referring to the bronze medal in the team event. “Now some girls are left crying forever while nothing is done about the cheaters. If the I.O.C. is closing their eyes to this, they are proving that they have turned completely political. Why don’t they look at the birth certificates?” Nothing has been done about that potential age violation since Yang’s video recently surfaced on the Internet. Another I.O.C. spokeswoman, Emmanuelle Moreau, said the committee had “the mechanism in place” to deal with a case of an under-age athlete who wins an Olympic medal, but she would not elaborate. The responsibility remains with the international gymnastics federation, she said. Officials from the F.I.G. said Saturday that they did not plan to investigate Yang’s claim that she broke the rules because no documents were involved. “As long as the passport ages are the same as in the past as today, there is no reason for the F.I.G. to take any action,” Andre Gueisbuhler, the secretary general, said. The federation’s president, Bruno Grandi, acknowledged that age falsification remained a problem in gymnastics. To battle it, he said, the federation will issue licenses to gymnasts next year. The athletes will need those licenses to compete internationally, even in junior events. It will be issued upon review of the athlete’s passport. That sounds to me like the FIG would rather brush the issue under a rug then do a thorough investigation. They are basing their ruling on one set of passports. How many times must it be stated that it's fairly easy and not uncommon to falsify it. She (Nastia Liukin) won the World Championships titles on both uneven bars and balance beam at the 2005 World Championships, as well as earning the silver medals in the all-around and floor exercise. She was born in 1989 which means (if my math is correct) she would have been 16 in '05) Prior to 1981, the minimum required age to compete in senior events sanctioned by the FIG was 14. Bela Karolyi coached the Romanian team before this rule went into effect. Legal exceptions The one exception to this rule applies to the year before the Olympics, when gymnasts who are one year below the required age, but will be the required age in the Olympic year, may compete as seniors at the World Championships and other FIG meets Actually these news stories of him complaining about the rules violations appeared BEFORE the US team took the floor in qualifying. In addition, the US team are the reigning World Champions so he would have nothing to be sore about (in terms of losing); plus it's obvious to everyone that the US is not 1st after pre-lims because of injuries and mistakes. No one is saying or implying that they don't have the lead because the Chinese are using underage players. What people are saying is they might be cheating; that is totally seperate from the performances of the other teams. The Times found two online records of official registration lists of Chinese gymnasts that list He’s birthday as Jan. 1, 1994, which would make her 14. A 2007 national registry of Chinese gymnasts — now blocked in China but viewable through Google cache — shows He’s age as “1994.1.1.” Another registration list that is unblocked, dated Jan. 27, 2006, and regarding an “intercity” competition in Chengdu, China, also lists He’s birthday as Jan. 1, 1994. That date differs by two years from the birth date of Jan. 1, 1992, listed on He’s passport, which was issued Feb. 14, 2008. That's not a Chinese source, that's the NY Times doing it's own investigation. And that corroborates what the Chinese newspapers reported in a few articles. Enrico Casella, the coach of the Italian women’s team, had an idea to do away with age questions: create weight classes. That way, gymnasts of similar weight could compete more equally against one another, and the age minimum could be scrapped. Until then, he said, there will always be rumors that athletes are too young. Looks could be deceiving, he said. “By looks, you could say that the United States is using doping,” Casella said. “They are so muscular. My gymnasts in Italy aren’t that big. You begin to wonder how they got that way.” You took his quote completely out of context. First, he never said "I believe the US is doping." It was a hypothetical in response to the argument that looks could be deceiving. I agree with that statement; you can't definitively say, on looks alone, if the Chinese are cheating or not. But we're not going by just looks here; there's other evidence to support this theory. And btw, all these sources that I've posted can be found in the links that have been posted time and again already. Why don't you read them...instead of blindly believing what you want to believe.
"come off as" != "you are". Calm down. Falsehood: absence of truth or accuracy Having a girl sing, only to later be revealed as lip-synching would be a falsehood. It has nothing to do with rules. Says the person who portrayed a report about lip-synching as a scandulous attack on china's pride... I'd guess my problem is that I am communicating with someone not terribly bright. Link It is what it is. NBC faked some of the fireworks. For the record (just in case you decide to get all pissed) NBC is different from China. Let me repeat: NBC is not China and I am not calling china a meanie-poophead for faking fireworks. Good day!
nvm just saw a pic of her in the video report on that page. I thought she looked fine too. The story itself doesn't seem that big of a deal though. The circumstances are slightly different in that the person doing the singing is different, and the performance was actually convincing, but its the same type of deceifulness many pop groups employ when they have bad singers and lip synch during their 'live' performances.
NBC faked it? ROFL. Why would a broadcasting company fake it? You are really the one who's not that bright. And once again, what's up with the name calling? So what derogatory name have you come up with for the posters who have always defend Muslim no matter what?
Just want to point out that the firework in question (the foot print across Beijing) actually did took place, they just showed a computer generated version of it leading up to the live shot from the stadium because they thought it was too dangerous to have a helicopter film it live while the firework was been set off. Also NBC announcer clearly stated during that segment that "you are watching a computer generated picture of footsteps leading to the birdnest". And to be honest I thought it was pretty clear that the segment in question was CGI, I mean they didn't exactly do a good job of making it look real. I think a lot of people, including the guy who wrote the Yahoo article based on the Telegraph report either didn't understand or simply didn't read about the facts. Which is why Yahoo took down that article from its front page within 30mins of putting it up. Again only the part with the footprints across the Beijing sky was been accused of faking (even though NBC clearly stated during the broadcast it was CGI). Even in that case the footprints firework did actually took place.
It's -umm- right there in the link. And actually, it was not NBC per say, it was the Beijing Olympic Broadcasting Company or whatever. And, since you still cannot/refuse to read, let me try again: The NBC commentator specifically said, as the footage was being shown, that the event's producers were using a cinematic interlude to convey the concept of the fireworks. The actual fireworks WERE going off at the same time, and in much the same way... but there was simply no way to be sure they could show it well on TV - since it was impossible to predict the weather or other cirumstances. So, they showed a CGI illustration for the people watching TV. The weren't hiding anything, they came right out and SAID what they were doing: a faked representation of the fireworks. Really - it's not a big deal. Just an interesting factoid, more than anything else. I really don't know what you are talking about. I never directly called you anything, but I'm about too if you keep trolling around on simple and inoffensive (to me, anyhow) commentary.
Here is article explaining the situation, I think it all came down to the fact that the guy who wrote the short commentary on "the Telegraph" article didn't explain the whole thing at all before posting it on the front of Yahoo, and what was worse was that he put up a pic of the actual fireworks not the ones that was in question along with his commentary, and that caused more unnecessary uproar. http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-fakefireworks&prov=ap&type=lgns Just a big deal about nothing because the guy who did the Yahoo front page commentary didn't bother to read the actual article IMO.
Jesus H Christ Does anyone read anymore? I feel like I'm in a room full of deaf and blind people all yelling the same joke to each other.
Are you talking about me? I was just trying to explain the actual situation to those who might have been mistaken about the situation. And about he lipsynch thing, people lipsynch all the time even in "live concerts". People are putting way too much emphasis on the fact that the song wasn't performed live. I mean come on you can't expect a 8 year old to sing live in front of billions of people. I am more pissed off that the other poor girl didn't get recognized for her talent just because some government official thought she wasn't pretty enough.
You still don't get it? My point is that it's utterly hypocritical of you to have called out the wacko/nationalist names when you yourself are as predictable as the sun rises in the morning to defend Muslim whenever a disputable topic about that religion comes up. Can you spell hypocrite?
I know. We are saying the same thing. That is the point. Re-read the last 6 posts or so. It's the same thing each time. Exactly. As I said about a page ago before the critic guy went all loony-bin.
Oh ok, sorry there was just too many other arguments going on at the same time for me to get who is saying what.
