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Olbermann - All White People in this country is a RACIST

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SunsRocketsfan, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. DFWRocket

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    Have to agree with TSchmal & Pop Rox. I thing everybody is a racists - regardless of skin color. The difference is that many people DON"T want to be racists, and make a conscience effort not to be while others don't want to change, or don't believe they are racists.
     
  2. mc mark

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    Not all white people are racist.

    Only those that have an unnatural hatred of the president without any logical reason (like a majority of the tea baggers & basso).
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    what has he done that has not been by any other president before him that really disturbs you?

    example: why do you complain about Obama appointing new non-senate confirmed czars but never complained when bush did it for 8 years?
     
  4. mc mark

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    I’d still like an answer to my question of how is Obama destroying what is great about America.

    oh well
     
  5. SunsRocketsfan

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    Love your generalization statement. Have you personally met anyone involved in the Tea Party movement? Out here in So Cal it is actually quite diverse. For example there is quite a few asians. It is funny how Olbermann asks where are all the asians? Well asians only make up roughly 3% of the population in the US. Most of them are not into all the politics. But the movement has nothing to do about race but a cause. Sure you are going to get your extremes but you get that anywhere.
     
  6. BetterThanI

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    Which is exactly what Olbermann said: his exact statement was that prejudice and discrimination sit "defeated, dormant, or virulent" in the soul of every white man. In other words, we all have prejudiced and discriminatory thoughts: it's how we deal with those thoughts that defines us as a person. Do we spurn them, rising above it (defeated), do we let them lie unvoiced, but harbor the secret resentment and bias (dormant), or do we let them guide our deeds and words (virulent).

    I don't think Olbermann is 100% right all the time, and he can be as inflammatory and irrational as Beck or O'Reilly, but honestly, I think sometimes people loathe him so much, they hear hate-speak where there is none.

    And none of this addresses the very valid question at the core of his argument: if the Tea Bag movement really is about the issues they claim, why are WASPs the only ones who seem to be complaining?
     
  7. SunsRocketsfan

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    I don't think people are being Racist when they have a hatred for Obama. It is just people like to use that as an excuse when people attack Obama. It is all just politics!! Obama is a Liberal Democrat so of course the conservatives are going to attack him. Obama could be white, asian, black it doesnt matter. The same hatred for him will continue from the other side. It would be same if it was a conservative in the white house. The liberals will have a hate for him no matter what. People don't hate him for the color of his skin but for what he stands for. This is our two party system at work in the US and it will continue from BOTH sides. It doesn't really matter who is president or what color their skin color.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    That would be true if they attacked his policies. It's not true when they accuse him of building internment camps, not being a U.S. citizen, wanting to destroy America from within, being a muslim, etc.

    For some folks it's easier to believe those things because of how "different" Obama is on the outside than presidents they are used to.

    Attacking policy and issues isn't racist at all.
     
  9. AntiSonic

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  10. mc mark

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    this is simply not true

    As much as people critized Bush, you did not see people bringing guns to rallies and threatening to overthrow the government.
     
  11. juicystream

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    Because Olbermann is white, he can speak for all whites? Interesting. Reminds me of the "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" episode of South Park.

    "Jesse Jackson is not the emperor of black people!"

    "He told my dad he was"
     
  12. vlaurelio

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    have conservatives called Bill Clinton a socialist or terrorist sympathizer or not born in the US or destroying what's good for America?
     
  13. SunsRocketsfan

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    First off how many people have you actually seen bring guns to rallies to over throw the Govt???? I said in my other post you are going to get extremes from both sides.

    2nd I find it quite ironic how just yesterday a guy flew a plane into a building because he hates Bush. See you are going to get your extremists from both sides. The language by those who Hate Bush are just as extreme as those who Hate Obama.
     
  14. mc mark

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    Please explain this cause because your message is getting lost because of the crazies that show up to these events with signs that call the president a Muslim usurper hell bent on the destruction of the country and want to "take the country back".

    Back from what?
     
  15. mc mark

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    I had not heard this. Really? He committed suicide because he hated Bush?
     
  16. Pop Rox

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    I wasn't on here 8 years ago to complain about bush doing it. I stated already that I think all Czars should be subject to confirmation.. I guess what scares me most is the people that Obama alligns himself with or has alligned himself with in the past.. that and the fact that I believe he is propelling us toward a socialist type government like they have in most of Europe. also I believe his spending is out of line, and the fact that he needs to put together a panel to tell him that shows he's in no hurry to change it. I hate the fact that nothing was done to Pelosi for leaking Top Secret information about our Predators operating in Pakistan. He should have atleast publically repremanded her for that. I don't like alot of things about Obamas politics.. I'm no birther, or truther or any of that stuff. It just sickens me the way some people will defend to the death everything Obama says and does even when it's proven to be a lie or not work.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    They didn't bring guns to rallies TO overthrow the govt. They brought guns to rallies and carried signs calling Obama a tyrant, and talking about coming armed next time.

    The level of discourse was not the same.
     
  18. Depressio

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    Err, that's not really what I was saying. I'm saying, by definition, most people are NOT racists. Most people don't actually feel, in their heart, other races are inferior. That's the literal definition of being a racist.

    However, the term often gets misconstrued and mistook for simple stereotypes. For example, I notice a particular race loves to be very particular about how they order their sub at Subway or burrito at Chipotle. It clogs the line and is a general inconvenience and it tends to be this one particular race. Does observing that make me a racist? No. It means I have a stereotype for that particular race, but I don't believe that race is inferior to mine at all.

    I think everyone has these stereotypes. Popular ones could include the assumption an asian tourist with a giant camera around his neck is Japanese, or black people really love watermelon. Such things are not racist my definition, they're simply stereotypes. Noting that black people like watermelon does not indicate in any way that they are an inferior race.

    It's all about semantics, so the initial question is valid: did Olbermann call everyone racists, or simply say people have prejudices?
     
  19. SunsRocketsfan

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    Clinton Governed much more from the center in his later years so he didnt invoke as much hatred from conservatives. Plus he didnt have the luxury of having both houses of congress so there were some check and balances put in place.

    But have you forgotten the Clinton scandals? The language used to describe Clinton and the hatred for him was just the same.

    For example I am paraphrasing but these type of posts have surfaced time and time again on clutchfans.

    "Bush is a lying piece of **** garbage war criminal that needs to tried and locked up"
    ->acceptable

    "Obama is a socialist, terror sympathizer, not born in the US trying to destroy America"
    ->RACIST

    now both statements are completely untrue and ridiculous but you see how people will label the person that said that about Obama a racist??? Which is why I really think people are pulling the race card too often. It's not cause he is black it is simply because they disagree with his politics.
     
  20. Pop Rox

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    I agree the signs are ridiculous, and the movement is not as smoth as the progressive movement has been. BTW I'd say aprrox 15% of the people that are at the rallies I attend are minority. Also, should I bring up pics of Dems holding signs that compare W to the devil?
     

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