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Olajuwon or Nowitzki - Best International Player of all time

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DFWRocket, Nov 11, 2014.

  1. hakeemthagreat

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    Cuban's been in full troll mode (of Houston) since signing Parson's and posting the picture in the club. It'll be funny if we end up with a better season
     
  2. CometsWin

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    Dream and not close. Must be a slow day in Dallas to write this garbage.
     
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    The silliest part to me wasn't even the Hakeem comp, it was casually sliding Dirk past Duncan when clearly Duncan has had a much more illustrious career. I get that it was written that way because of Dirk and Hakeem's scoring totals, but just brushing off Duncan is inexcusable.

    To me, Dream > Duncan > Shaq > Dirk = KG in modern big man hierarchy. (Obviously Shaq is American but I say this to say, there is a gap between Dirk and Duncan and only a Dallas paper would catapult him right over everyone like that).
     
  4. ooooaaaah!

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    Olajuwon by far he's actually a two way player

    I will say both are the only two guys to will a championship in the last 25 without another star player.

    *Detroit didn't even have one but the was a young defensive juggernaut and a young Kobe lost the series by taking too many shots with a 'John Starks' like shooting percentage
     
  5. ooooaaaah!

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    win...fixed
     
  6. dream2franchise

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    Have to love the criteria Sefko stated in his article, SCORING and championships. He knows once you factor in defense and rebounding it's not even a conversation.

    Hakeem would have little trouble defending Dirk all the way out to the three point line. Let's not speak of the abuse Dream would inflict on the other end...
     
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    It's funny how championships change people's perspectives. If Dirk didn't win in 11, nobody would even stop and think about this. But since Dallas put together a great team and won, Dirk gets elevated in a lot of NBA circles. Dirk was great, don't get me wrong. But if Chandler gets injured that year, they never win and people look at Dirk differently.
     
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    Eddie Sefko labeled the Rockets "Choke City"
     
  9. BONIERO1576

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    I can see the SA paper running an article like this comparing Duncan and Dream, but Dirk?! You notice that the stat lines also failed to mention, steals, DPOY awards, All NBA and All Star appearances, Gold Medals, and not just rings but Finals appearances and Western conference finals appearances. Nonsense.
     
  10. dream2franchise

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    Accomplishments, rings, MVPS, scoring titles. These are all byproducts of the other four guys on the floor. Those are mostly irrelevant to me when it comes to comparing players.

    It's about game. No big man had game like Dream. The court was his.
     
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    This whole article was poorly written in general. First, the topic completely shifts when they start talking about best international, not just who is better. Second, they start talking about Dirk's shot and how he changed the idea that 7 footers can't be shooters. The article jumps around and doesn't answer the article title; a title only to get publicity.

    Also really? Olajuwon all the way! Olajuwon is really one of the few people who would be able to seriously SHUT DOWN Dirk.
     
  12. bongman

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    Olajuwon also played soccer. Closest Dirk got with soccer is when he joined the world cup champs during their celebration.
     
  13. ribbit

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    Yeah, but can Hakeem rap? You guys seem to forget that! Run DMC, baby!
     
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    Dirk could also play soccer

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    He just looked absolutely ridiculous while he did it
     
  15. rm365

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    Looking at it objectively you have to go with Hakeem.
    Look at the way he ragdolled a future hall of fame and top 50 of all time player Patrick Ewing in the finals, and abused league MVP David Robinson.

    Dirk is just a step below though. He was an amazing player too.
     
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    Hakeem Olajuwon spent 4 years at University of Houston, leading them to two straight NCAA championship games. Entering the NBA draft, he had more experience playing American basketball in the NCAA than most American lottery picks from the past 20 years. Hakeem may have been born outside of the USA, but he was certainly no "international" basketball player.

    Same goes for guys like Tim Duncan and Steve Nash and Dominique Wilkins and Patrick Ewing. None of those guys are "international" players and it irritates me when trivia geeks misrepresent them as such. International players are the ones who hardly played any basketball in America before joining the NBA. Sabonis. Peja. Dirk. Yao. Tony Parker. Manu Ginobili. The Gasol brothers. Those are the real international players.
     
  17. ElPigto

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    Can someone make this bull**** picture right? Like Hakeem swatting that shot and put all-time blocks leader, 2-time DPOY.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. ElPigto

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    Oops, should of previewed my post.
     
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    How can a player dominant on both sides of the ball be worse than a player dominant on one side of the ball?
     
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    Not even close... Dream by a large, large margin...
     

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