Okur may be suspended for the first game of the playoffs

I just saw the video and wow that was so intentional

 

I hate Sloan so much because his entire team philosophy is based on the pretext that the officials DON'T do their job, if you screw around with them enough and overload their threshold for detecting fouls. They get called for the most fouls in the league, but they don't get called for half as many as they should because of their style and perceived home court advantage.

 

Finally saw the video, and I'd be surprised if he didn't get a 1 game suspension. The NBA has been pretty consistent about these things. Especially with Okur getting a flagrant foul. It's not like the refs didn't notice it.

I like it a lot. We have to win the first two games at home, and the Jazz down a man would not be a bad way to start the series.

 

How bout we add this to the Mix. Lets say hmmm a 2 game injury?

Point guard Deron Williams, who suffered a bruised tailbone in a fall Saturday night in Denver, aggravated the injury and did not play after the Jazz fell behind 65-39 at halftime.

 

does it matter if it was intentional or not? thats pretty dangerous & reckless play that needs to be penalized with a suspension.

 

THinking more about it, I am not sure I would want Okur out though. He is a one dimentional player with no athleticism. I think we would struggle more with an athletic replacement.

 

Here's hoping we open up against the Jazz without Okur and without Deron Williams!

 

Stu Jackson has to upgrade it to a flagrant 2 for Okur to get suspended. The difference between a flagrant 1 and a flagrant 2 is that a flagrant 1 is unnecessary contact while a flagrant 2 is unnecessary AND excessive contact. Dirk got a flagrant 2 because his foul pulled Kirilenko down to the floor.

Because Okur didn't follow through and pulled his hand back immediately and didn't maintain contact, I don't think they're going to upgrade it.

 

Yes, I kinda want them with all their players, so as Dallas after that. I would love to get my revenge from them for the ast 2 years eliminations. I am not sure we are ready for it yet, but I still want the challenge. I just see Scola and Batier celebrating after taking the Jazz out. I see it.

 

dude... we won't play dallas when we win... we will play the Lakers/Nuggets winner.

 

I got in the car the other day when the guys on 610 were discussing this notion. Apparently, it's just untrue. The Jazz apparently shot something like 400 less free throws then their opponents if I heard correctly. Are they "getting away" with foul calls...sure, but probably not anymore than any other team in the league.

I have some serious problems with refereeing in the NBA.

- Different refs shouldn't have different styles? There's a reason there's a rulebook. You shouldn't have to "feel" out a referee's style in the first half of games, and those styles shouldn't change in the last 4 minutes of games either.

- Perimeter officiating vs. interior officiating. It's like apples and oranges, but doesn't make sense.

- Random calls. You know, 3 seconds, lane violations, traveling. If you're going to have these rules, officiate them. Don't just call 3 seconds randomly every 5 or 10 times it happens. "Defensive" players aren't the only players who commit lane violations either. If you're going to throw a lane violation in there once every game or so, you need to take away a made free throw for offensive lane violation. Etc.

- The bad mistakes. Rockets fans remember Jerry Stackhouses out of bounds save. Phoenix fans are probably still bitter about last year's playoffs. If it is clear that the refs have a tendency to regularly miss VERY VERY VERY important calls, allow instant replay...something similar to the NFL system, which seems to work.

Anyway, here's hoping for a well officiated series with Utah.

 

Agree also. Either Chuck or Scola will be on Okur most of the time. Either guy is more than capable of shutting him down. Milsap scares me more because he actually plays down low like a big man should.

 

I watched the video, and it is clear Tim Duncans fault.











for missing the free throw, thank you!

 

What does a dui have to do with NBA suspension?

 

Agree, but Okur took a serious whack to Oberto's face and then pulled his hand back after he knocked the crap out of Oberto.

 

That's why you have to match that when you play against them. I think that's part of why the Spurs do well against them. And hopefully with the guys we have this year, that can happen. I don't think Hayes, Harris, Landry, Mutombo, Jackson, and especially Scola are going to be taking any sh** from any floppy, whiny, dirty jazzhole.

 

DD, that shot he put on Oberto was 100% intentional and I agree with you, he needs to sit the next game. I have been hit like that with an open hand while playing in college and it hurt like hell. When you have a 6"10+ 265lb man hit you, it hurts twice as much.

 

That is not the definition, here it is, straight from the rulebook.

A flagrant 1 is on purpose too. The line between a flagrant 1 and flagrant 2 is if it was excessive or not. I guess Stu has a definition of what excessive is. I saw it when it happned the guys doing the ESPN telecast said a flagrant 2 would have been if he had maintained contact with Oberto's head and dragged him to the floor or if he had hit him with a closed fist.