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Oklahoma's new way to reduce abortions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. trueroxfan

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    originally thought that said countRy, but either way it is the county in which the abortion is performed, not where the patient resides, i am not familiar with a significant amount of small towns, but the ones i have spent time in don't offer abortions. So it is not unreasonable to think that the patient would go to another county, and if they did have the abortion in the county, it still does not help realistically identify someone unless you already knew they were getting an abortion, in which case the database would serve only as a device for confirming something that you already knew.

    i'm playing a bit of the devil's advocate, as ridiculous as this law is, i don't think it puts anyone at risk
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    That isn't the point. This is personal medical information that nobody should have access to but the patient and their doctor. This is state sanctioned harrassment and shouldn't be allowed, period.
     
  3. Baqui99

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    Agreed, but it looks like the toothless inbreds north of the Red River are going forward with this.
     
  4. juicystream

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    I have to say I don't agree with this. I'm very pro-life, but this infringes upon their privacy IMO.
     
  5. Shovel Face

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    And the liberal mass murderers continue ignoring the constitutional / human rights of the unborn.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    You need a class in the U.S. constitution and the role of the Supreme Court.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    "liberal mass murderers"... nice

    sounds like jihad talk to me.
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    Maybe, maybe no. But what exactly is the POINT of this law, if it isn't to shame women who get abortions?
     
  9. bnb

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    Ima's right. Shame the woman. Scare the doctor.

    With the wacko's out there, who already target doctors who perform abortions, having a public scorecard of how many are performed could certainly dissuade some from preforming a SC endorsed and perfectly legal procedure. Especially in smaller counties.
     
  10. mc mark

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    The christian taliban is alive and well in Merica
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    No, he just needs to find some class, something he is lacking in a big way.
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    THIS just confirms the stereotype.
     
  13. rhester

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    I have a much simpler and fair solution that could either increase abortions or decrease abortions and leave the choice to the mother:

    Let pro-choice advocates prepare a detailed video of a birth at 38 weeks and a separate detailed video of an abortion at 38 weeks.

    Require that both videos be viewed, without counseling or comment prior to scheduling an abortion.

    then keep it a choice for the mother
     
  14. Ottomaton

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    I'm cool with this as long as you also make everybody who orders a steak watch a video of the cow being butchered before eating it, and everybody who gets surgery watch a video of the procedure before they get the surgery.
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    Are all of these posters banned? When did they get banned and for what?
     
  16. rhester

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    steak and babies... cool

    there is quite a controversy over cow butchering :)

    The next election will be decided over gall bladder surgery 'choice' :D

    I'm good with both of your suggestions, in fact I'm good with just offering the option I suggested to mothers who are seeking an abortion.

    child birth videos are routinely shown in classrooms
     
  17. Dave_78

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    Not a bad idea except for the part about letting pro-choice advocates prepare the videos. How about an independent team of medical professionals prepare the videos?
     
  18. rhester

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    pro-choice is fine with me, shouldn't be anything to fear for anyone on either side

    abortion is taught as being a normal healthy procedure so a video of the procedure even late term shouldn't upset the cart... I've seen several videos of abortions at different months...it didn't change my view

    I think it should be an option offered to mothers, they can decline or accept- you know 'choice'
     
  19. Major

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    How is this a good thing? You want people making decisions on whether to have a baby based on visual emotional appeals, and you specifically argue against the education side of it?
     
  20. Ottomaton

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    I can introduce you to some people from PETA. They feel quite as strongly about their subject as you do about yours.


    I hate to break it to you, but it probably isn't going to be decided by abortion, either. The people who feel most strongly about it on both sides are minorities, and their party preference is pretty well established.
     

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