By Adam Schefter NFL Analyst After watching the college quarterbacks this weekend and further assessing the potential free-agent class, the Houston Texans came away even more convinced that David Carr will be their quarterback this season. Up until now, the Texans have said they would listen to offers for Carr, but never have committed to trading him. And upon further review, Texans officials now believe that Carr is their best alternative and they won't be making a trade for Denver's Jake Plummer or any other quarterback. By the way, Adam Schefter is the best NFL insider and he knows his stuff.
Wow. I'd love it if that were true, but I didn't think the Texans had the stones to deal with the fan outrage for another offseason. I hope it's true, but again, this could all be posturing to raise his trade value. We'll see.
More and more I'm getting a bad feeling that Carr will be back. I think it will take a 2nd round pick for the Texans to trade him. I think a 4th is the highest they will be offered. After surviving kind of the backlash of drafting Mario W. this organization will be able to survive keeping Carr if they come up with a great draft. If they draft Quinn and keep Carr I will be sick on draft day.
Well, I don't give a **** what fans think they should keep Carr, draft a qb that KubiAg likes and don't even think about the Snake. Let Carr and Sage duel it out and worry about grooming your draft pick. The Texans are not gonna win the superbowl next year so who cares what the fans think it's not like folks are gonna stop buying season tickets.
has anyone seen or read a interview with carr lately? Seems like there would be a quote or something from him during all the trade talk
of course not - he's been purposefully hidden while the team attempts to placate the fan base. honestly, i can't believe anyone's actually buying the texans' story - seems as plain as day to me: they sing the same verse-chorus-verse across the organization on his performance last year, playing to the fans by admitting it was a disappointment; inconsistent; needs to get better ("darn right!" says joe fan); they did "subtle" (read: obvious) things like remove him from all marketing materials, setting off the lazy chronicle, who they know they can lead around on a leash because their staff is populated with r****ded and/or hillbillies ("bob mcnair offered no comment - carr must be done!!!") and then as soon as the chronicle is done humping the non-existent story for all its worth in a blatant effort not to report news, but sell it, the texans then admit other teams did indeed express interest (funny how with all the media coverage and insiders the nfl has these days, those teams have never been identified)... leading us all to their next act, coming very shortly in which, as soon as the season ticket checks all clear, they'll tell us, "we never received what we thought was fair value for a QB of carr's caliber and we're excited to welcome him back so he can play another year under kubiak." he was never, ever going anywhere.
I agree. When you really look hard at this team we are building from the ground up. I don't see a really top QB prospect in the draft so forget that. This team really needs to start in the trenches and then get some playmakers on the field. We need badly- two O-tackles We need badly- two D-tackles, one D- end We need badly- a running back We need badly- a cornerback We need badly- a wide receiver We need badly- two safeties We need badly- another OS linebacker We need a QB who makes a few plays, converts some 3rd downs and gets a few more TD's in the red zone I really had hopes that by our 6th year we would be able to win 11-12 games and contend. There are just too many holes on this team. That is why 8 wins will take a very very good draft.
Are we an expansion team yet? I know we won like 6 games but really we played worse- Out of the first 5 games we were stomped good in 4 of them and then we squeeked out a win against a confused Miami team (before they got going) The next week we beat Jacksonsville which puzzles me why we get up and kick tail when we play them, must hate those guys. That was the best win of the season. This is when the offense really started stinking, and the passing game turned into a 3yd completion to Andre. Even though we beat our whipping boys in Florida and we got by Oakland we weren't impressive. The last two wins were flukish although I really liked the offensive effort against Indy. Don't think that happens unless they sleep-walk. Manning looked like a rookie in that game. We whooped Cleveland- YEAH! I think we have a poor offense and a chance to build a good defense. But the holes are everywhere. We need a A+ draft.
No longer just irresponsible speculation: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4592006.html Texans cornerback Dunta Robinson said Wednesday night that he believes it is time for quarterback David Carr to be traded. "It's just my opinion, but I think it's that time," Robinson said. "We haven't won. I'm not saying it's David's fault, and I'm not saying he can't be a great quarterback with another team. But he's been here for five years, and the best we've been able to do is 7-9. I just think it's time for us to make some moves that'll help the Texans become a winning team."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/4591907.html Unkindest cut of all awaits By JOHN P. LOPEZ Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle There are many unknowns about the Texans after veterans Seth Payne, Zach Wiegert and Eric Moulds were released Wednesday, with running back Domanick Williams perhaps next on the hit list. But for all the questions the moves raise about salary-cap space, potential free-agent signings, trades, draft prospects and the Charley Casserly mess the organization still is trying to sweep up, there is only one certainty. It's still all about David Carr. Nothing about the Texans' fortunes changes in perception or reality until the big move is made. The Carr move. It is sad and unfortunate, sure. It's tragic, in a football sense. It is unfair to put all the club's problems on one man's shoulders, especially when that man has been nothing but sincere, professional and good in the community. But the fact is, until the great quarterbacking question is answered, Carr's legacy here will be that of one player single-handedly crippling an entire organization. The Texans' brain trust of coach Gary Kubiak and general manager Rick Smith has shown great expertise making the little moves that help mold a club. They picked up winners in the later rounds of the 2006 draft. They brought in relative unknowns who contributed — players like Lionel Dalton and Cedric Killings on defense. They saw something in lightly regarded free agents like Ron Dayne and Kevin Walter and got production from them. Little moves are nice. In truth, even Wednesday's cuts were nothing more than tweaking for the sake of finding younger, better, cheaper fits. In terms of making room under the salary cap, cutting Moulds, Payne and Wiegert did little. The Texans went from roughly $12 million under the cap to about $15 million under. That won't make much difference on the free-agent market when it comes to signing a significant impact player. Don't expect the Texans to land anything of the kind. Little moves are necessary and important in the grand scheme. Payne and Wiegert had bum knees, and Moulds ran a post pattern into the wall at the end of his career. The Texans can do better than the trio now looking for work. Wednesday's cuts were nothing more than a perfect example of what Kubiak and Smith do best. They can fill needs with the best of them. But can they make the toughest decision of all and sever ties with the albatross that is Carr? That's the hardest call of all. And it is necessary, though suddenly less of a certainty than in recent weeks. That's scary. Some to whom Smith has confided say the Texans are wondering if the best option at quarterback for 2007 will be Carr. Making that call would be the kind of big mistake that all of the little transactions in the world can't overcome, if only because Texans fans — and Carr's teammates — have had enough. In a parting shot, Moulds spoke Wednesday about what he felt limited this team's chances to succeed last season. The Texans won six games in 2006. Two more wins would have had the club on the brink of the playoffs. Moulds said it was Carr who hindered the team's chances, saying that at some point "the quarterback has to show that he can carry (the team)." Those kinds of words should speak volumes to Kubiak and Smith. Is it Carr's fault the club has been miserable throughout its existence? No. Not entirely. But as much as the Texans changed their look a bit more Wednesday and will continue to do so through NFL free agency, on draft day and in the signing period that follows, they are small steps. The Texans now are hedging on trading for Denver quarterback Jake Plummer, which seemed like a foregone conclusion as recently as this week. The Broncos apparently are asking for high draft picks. And while Cleveland and Minnesota have entered into trade talks for Carr, the Texans apparently don't like the proposed deals thus far. And the Browns and Vikings believe they could land Notre Dame's Brady Quinn in the draft. Thus, the Texans' front office is wondering if it should keep Carr, even after saying publicly that he is on the market and hearing calls for change from all around. It's certainly not fair to Carr that he has become the face of failure. But it would be more unfair to the team, the fans and Carr to keep him and have a built-in scapegoat for another losing season. There will be better talent on the Texans' roster in 2007, certainly. It will be a younger team. And if a top-notch contributor comes via the draft in the form of LSU safety LaRon Landry or potential left tackle Levi Brown of Penn State, optimism will rise. But big change only comes with exactly that. Big change. All the little moves won't mean a thing unless the front office gets some blood on its hands and rids itself of the albatross. Sad, but true.
Mould's and Robinson venting their frustration will only make it harder to get value for Carr in a trade. But Denver is nuts if they think Plummer is worth high draft picks.
Uh no crap, just an observation. You think other GM's don't take notice when former teammates and a team's #1 DB say the QB either needs to step up or needs to go? Yeah, I'm sure those offers they haven't liked for Carr are going to get better now that there is locker room dissention.
Sage>Carr I could care less about getting 'value' for Carr At this point let's rebuild the team into a winner. Carr is not that bad, he's not that good, he needs a change and so do we. Take the best offer and RUN! Let me translate what Robinson and Moulds said- "We are sick and tired of playing with a QB that throws dump passes to a stud receiver, is aloof as a leader, fumbles at critical times, does not spread the ball around, rarely checks off and sees anyone open past 7 yds and has not carried the team when they needed him the most for 5 seasons." IM unhumble O The two games against Tennessee last season are the portrait of how I think most the players feel. Either our QB can lose it for us or a playmaker will beat us- most of the time.
