Is it worth another 2 -6 win season. Is it worth a half empty stadium booing week after week. Is it worth alienating/losing a large portion of your fanbase. Is it worth killing the morale of the team. Thats the other side of the coin.
Plummer led the Cardinals to their first playoff appearance in 16 years and defeated the Cowboys in the playoffs?
maybe, maybe not. I'm not 100% for plummer, but I am 100% for a change at QB. I think plummer is a worthwhile change if the price isn't too high (like Major pointed out earlier) Unfortunately this isn't a good year to be in this position. But after 5 years with the current I feel its time to make a change.
first of all, items 2 and 3 are the same thing, and i don't paticularly care about either one - i'm a fan; not an investor in the team. if item 4 had any validity (and it doesn't), winning does wonders for a team's morale, so i'd focus my attention on making that happen. it also brings back fairweather fans. your other "point" is a make-believe set of parameters designed to favor your conclusion that i have no interest in discussing. the same could be said for item #4, actually.
If Jake Plummer (the same Jake Plummer who was benched on a winning team last season) would've been the QB last season instead of Carr, what would our record have been? Maybe 7-9 instead of 6-10. Big whoop.
I know what you mean by this, I really do. You're not really defending Carr as much as just saying, "hey...as long as he's here, we have to pay him, and there's no SIGNIFICANT (capitalized for emphasis) upgrade out there, why not use him?" And, unlike a lot of people here, I respect that. But where I differ is that I really think Carr as worn out his welcome here with the fans. Just look at all the threads on him in the last 6 months. I know, by reading your past posts, that you don't subscribe to the "addition by subtraction" theory, but in this ONE case.....I do. I just think it's best for David, the team, and the fans that we go in a different direction.
The 21 (not including special teams) other starters on the Cardinals have never gotten to the playoffs again.
And they didn't any other year he was there. And he played terrible. And I'm pretty sure more than one player on that 1998 team had made the playoffs previously and since.
I'm pretty sure Lomas Brown, Larry Centers, Corey Chavous, Kwame Lassiter and Aeneas Williams saw the playoffs after 1998. There may be even more.
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I know what you mean, but those players (including Simion Rice) all departed between 1999-2000, so they lost a lot of talent RIGHT after their playoff run. This is probably a better explanation on why they haven't been back to the playoffs since Plummer's departure. Lassiter is probably the exception, but he is just one of many talented players that left the team.
I remember in high school, when we would watch game film or have to turn in weekly quizzes on how we would run our offense against the opponent's defense, I understood the importance of each position. Whether it was the tight end or guards or quarterback, we all had assignments, and if we failed the whole play could fall apart. Watching college football games after that was a completely different experience, because you could see the machine-like quality of an offense and not just the highlights from the skill positions. But the NFL is different. Every position is important in the NFL, yes, of course. The Texans need a left tackle badly... But NFL offenses, the ones that win, rely much more heavily on their quarterbacks than in college or high school. I mean, that's obvious. 80% of the plays we ran were variations of the option. But the NFL quarterback has to be a leader, not just one of "22 starters." I watched the NFL Network's America's Game (documentaries on the 20 best football teams ever) and realized that. Every team needed a quarterback they could trust. From John Elway to Mark Rypien, the team counted on them to come up with the big play when they needed it the most...not just avoid mistakes. I'm not saying that Plummer is the answer, not for more than a season or two, but the guy has led two different teams to the playoffs, and that has to count for something. His play under Kubiak was much better than Carr, as well.
