Ok so do we give Tmac another year, or shop him this summer?

Please read my posts carefully before replying to what you think i said.

 

I just don't know how much you would get back if your moved McGrady. I know keeping Yao and McGrady together and just adding another piece sounds boring, but it's not like we would get enough back to contend for a championship. We are in the same boat as the Lakers were with Kobe.

 

I wouldn't want Iverson, You have to think if his compatible with Yao first of all, which quite frankly would be no both in personality and style. Second of all I wouldn't mind seeing Iverson play a bit more in the Western Conference before making my mind up about him. He just got benched in a 4th quarter do or die against Lakers..........

 

I won't say anything about LeBron because he took a semi-talented team to the finals, even if it was in the East, and even if he got swept by the Spurs, he still had to go through the Pistons.

Disappear in the 4th quarter or not, Kobe has proven that he can NOT lead talent-challenged squads out of the first round on his own (meaning without Shaq).

You are right. From a business standpoint, Yao doesn't move. However, God forbid if he can't win with this team, it would be frustrating as a fan to have him just because the owner wants him as a cash cow.

Developing stars? As in Andre Iguodala? Above average role players? As in Andre Miller? That could work. Andre Miller gives you no 3 pt. threat, but he gives you a legit mid-range shooting threat plus a good playmaker. Andre Iguodala is young and athletic with a jumper that's in the works. But do you want to risk 2-3 seasons of Yao's career on this gamble when you KNOW that the T-Mac/Yao core is only 1 healthy season or 1 key piece away from working.

Manu on his own wouldn't be better for this team, I believe. I don't think he'd do any better with this squad than T-Mac is. Manu would be a perfect compliment to Yao, however. That I agree with.

 

i dont think there would be a good chance of getting a deal involving trading tmac that would benefit the "win now" rockets. so i say keep tmac ...

plus, i want him to get out the first round with us

 

Give the futility the Rockets have experienced with McGrady off the floor and the likelyhood that they won't get back near what he's worth because of his injuries leads me to believe he won't be traded. Yao needs to get healthy and actually play a full season.

 

I agree Wekko continously quotes Kobe Bryant but he has done nothing to get his team out of the first round either without massive help. I.e. Pau Gasol for peanuts

 

That's a) basically what McGrady does and b) what you want a penetrating point guard to do.

 

tmac makes his teammates better and gets assists from a lot of different ways (high post, pick and roll, penetration, post ups). you can see the sixers making the playoffs and doing well with basically no additions after trading iverson (just andre miller traded for him).

a penetrating POINT GUARD looks to pass/set up his teammates first (ala a chris paul or deron). iverosn looks to SCORE first. BIG difference. that's why it's a struggle for other good scorers to play with him.

 

I watch the Hornets, the Spurs, the Lakers and they're on a completely different level than us. Our talent and resources are all spent on McGrady. But McGrady isn't giving us enough. Trade Mac for more balance and talent on this team. He's just not a freakin' winner. Forget the "we won't get better anything better in return" thoughts. It's addition by subtraction. Look at the Spurs with Tony and Manu. Rebuild this team but start with trading off McGrady.

Do it before it's seriously too late and we continue this 1st round exit bullcrap and keep having to depend on finding a diamond in the rough with 2nd round picks as our only asset every season.

 

i don't agree with this trade b/c it won't improve us: but since everyone is clamoring for one (right badgerfan?)

the only realistic trade star-for-star is tmac for iverson. iverson makes 20 mil next yr, same as tmac. straight up deal.

iverson is paired with yao.
tmac is paired with melo.

denver comes out ballin' after that trade i believe. but if you just want to trade just to trade, then this deal is perfect. denver would def. be willing after such a disappointing playoff series.

 

I think the question isn't "Do we trade t-mac"? The question should be "Who can we get for t-mac?" !! You just don't want to trade for trading's sake!!

 

I definitely won't trade t-mac for either iverson or anthony! The only feasible people i would trade t-mac for is manu, wade and maybe joe johnson. But come to think about it, we got lucky getting t-mac for francis and mobley. It could've been worse.

 

i wouldn't mind trading tracy for wade. he's younger and will have a lot to prove after a horrible season this yr. his contract will expire the same yr as lebron so hey, either tracy/wade will come off and will make a bid for lebron regardless.

 

Well I dunno, but trading T-Mac seems pretty risky, like it could change alot of things between the other players as well as I'm sure they got some decent chemistry going on. I would give T-Mac another go because if you guys haven't noticed we do have some bad luck with injury problems =/ Unless of course someone's willing to trade T-Mac for some super superstar like Chris Paul then hell yeah, however highly unlikely lol.

 

tmac isn't going anywhere. We will have a nice run for the next two years with developing rookies and hopefully a heathy squad. After two years, if we don't extend his contract we have lots of capspace.

 

Championships don't happen over night. Considering all the injuries this team has faced over the last couple of years, the potential of this team with t-mac and Yao have yet to be surfaced. The future is certainly looking good for us. We have some solid rookies and our super stars are young as well. Over all we have a pretty young team. The key is being injury free for an entire year. And i'm hoping next year will be the year where we play an entire season w/o major injuries. That would set the tone for a new dynasty. Bottom line we have a very talented squad and a great coach. Fans just need a little patience, we don't need to always jump the gun and over analyze.

 

O FOR GOD SAKES PEOPLE.
Look at our record, 4TH BEST IN THE WEST, WITHOUT A BIG MAN. LOOK AT OUR RECORD AFTER THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON. BEST IN THE LEAGUE.

You guys out here honestly think trading Mcgrady in the off season is a good idea? Damn it if you guys were in charge of a country in war and you invaded 90% of the world, would you surrender to your enemies if you lost 1% of your world?

This is the exact same situation. WE ARE PERFECTLY FINE WHEN BOTH PLAYERS ARE HEALTHY. I'm sorry for shouting, but we are not 30/52, we are not 40/32 we are a 50+ team. With yao, probably even a 60+ team this season!

Why are we even thinking of trading Mcgrady or even Yao for that matter. Do you not want to see what happens if the rockets were able to do what they did in the second half of this season, except for the WHOLE SEASON.

Honestly, if we traded T-mac in the offseasons, we are officially stupider than memphis. And hopefully we won't have our team named and shamed forever. And be made a mockery out of.

 

So what? The fact of the matter is we haven't won a playoff series yet. I am tired of "next year" like 1 other poster on this board pointed out.

And honestly I don't know who we can get that will be better in talent than Tracey Mcgrady. But I couldn't care less now logically, there's only so many "Let's wait till they are healthy" I can take. I am not a patient person and it's been 4 years.

 

We didn't win one before because JVG was here. Yes I'm tired of next season as well, but next season is caliber championsihp team for us. This season, we are weak contenders without Yao. And if anyone here (including you) think we should trade t-mac this offseason, they're bunch of idiots. Honestly, I mean if you plan to trade at least do it the year after next, but trading t-mac before next season? Thats memphis style of winning.