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OK - maybe we should keep Mobley

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Axeman, Jan 25, 2002.

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  1. kidrock8

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    So 9 teams is somehow a lot, out of a league of 29?
     
  2. kidrock8

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    Jordan is 8X's the player Cat could ever wish he could be. Jordan was clutch when he was Cat's age, and his overall game was about 10X's better than Cat's is right now.

    Ditto for Barkley.

    I know this will be a shock to most of you, but Cat is the reason why we won't ever go far. Assuming he is our 2nd guy for as long as he is a Rocket. He provides ZERO intangibles.

    Winning is more than just scoring 20 points on 25 shots.
     
  3. Hydra

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    Mobley's p/fga is actually above 1, which is really all you look for in a perimeter scorer like him. He also, usually, puts some fouls on the other team and draws double teams. Defensively he is our best perimeter defender because he stops penetration. There is no way that Mobes is responsible for the Rockets not going far.
     
  4. giddyup

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    So can we look for selfish play from Cat until he approaches age 40?!
     
  5. krosfyah

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    Giddyup, touche. Jordan's role was to score before. My point was that people can grow and mature...sooner or later.

    Kidrock, this is a team sport. Everybody has a role. Cat's primary role is to provide offense. More importantly, by doing so he takes a lot of pressure off Steve.

    This notion that Cat is a loser is just plain dumb. How many players at his age has lead their team to a championship? Hell, Shaq couldn't even do it.

    BTW, Cat doesn't lead this team - Steve does (oh, and he's is young too).

    Why do people like you insist that it is better to trade than mold what you already have. I'm glad you aren't my boss. If you trade then you inevitably will get new problems in return. Are you so sure those new problems won't be a worse situation? It's a gamble, that's for sure.

    Grass is always greener....

    Cat is an unbelievable talent. How gratifying would it be to mold him into a championship caliber player? Lesser players have done it. I've got some loyalty. I'm not ready to trade his potential due to a few poorly run plays. I believe his decision making ability will get better. OR Rudy will recognize his weaknesses and design the offense accordingly. If Rudy can take the 94 team to a championship, then he can work w/ Cat. Rudy would have drooled to have Cat's talent on that '94 team.

    I know it's easier to criticize than to be positive, but you'll live longer if you quit your b****ing.
     
  6. giddyup

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    My question is this: a guy has been playing top-level competitive basketball (NCAA and NBA) for 6-10 years. How long does it take to learn to play smart, team ball?

    My high school coach expected it of me before I walked on the floor (which was seldom-- sad but true)-- even at age 16-18.

    As a percentage, I guarantee you that our mediocre high school basketball team took fewer dumb shots than these guys do today. If they get paid so much, shouldn't we expect them to already know the basics or, at least, be able to learn them very quickly?

    Coaches who were players, i.e. Rudy, Riley, Lenny et al, must just be going nuts with the nonsense.

    The players are more physically talented but they are also more mentally challenged. Is basketball really that complicated?
     
  7. krosfyah

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    I can understand that point of view. I'd argue that NBA is a different beast. Kobe played for years but he made numerous bad decisions early on when he entered the league. He's now become a much smarter player.

    Cat, afterall, made a good shot to tie the game against the Hornets. He drove to the basket and took a mid-range 15ft shot. I haven't heard many naysayers give credit to Mobley for "learning" from mistakes. We just hear the same rhetoric about how dumb he is and we should trade/bench him now.

    Cat is a great talent and he hasn't hit his prime yet. I say continue to develop him. The best lessons are mistakes so hopefully he'll get better. (pst, he already has)
     
  8. Nolen

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    Awesome.
     
  9. arno_ed

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    for who do you want to trade Mobley???
    He is young plays great with Steve. You remember we got him in the second round?? I think he is a greatly talented player. He will learn. Bench him for who? You want Morris in the starting 5? or maybe Torres? you got to be kiddin me. Mobley is a great second option. He can shoot and drive, and drawn fouls. It's a lot easier to play a team when it's starting center is on the bench for foul trouble.
     

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