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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SWTsig, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. hooroo

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    A 6-4 point guard is considered big.
     
  2. thewaterox

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    How come it wasn't considered big when we were talking about JJ Redick? I know V-span can play PG which 6-3 to 6-4 is decent to avg in the NBA, but for a 2 that's small. V-span is a combo guard more than he is a PG from what I've read up on him. Is Steve Nash big? He's roughly the same size as V-span.
     
  3. opticon

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    For a point guard thats big , for a sg thats about average.
     
  4. dragonsnake

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    Still, we still don't have reliable third option on this team.
     
  5. crash5179

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    DD,

    I think what made Mike James a must was that he was a known commodity.

    V-Span
    Hayes
    JLIII
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    Snyder (to a much lesser degree)

    are not proven commodities. I think they could work out great and I think they have some great potential but we still have to keep our fingers crossed with what we get from them.

    With Mike James running the point we could have had a very good and a proven starting rotation.
     
  6. Rockets2K

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    I'm pretty surprised he still has posting abilities.;)

    IMO, it would be difficult to accurately grade a offseason that hasnt finished yet.
    I agree mainly that Gay was firstly not our pick inthe first place...so b****ing about trading him is overlooking the fact he woul dnot have been here at all no matter what way you sliced it..Add into that the fact that his success is FAR from assured...and it leads to the largest mass over-reaction I have ever seen on this board.

    anyway...I like the moves so far..assuming Spanolious is anywhere as well developed as the org seems to think...unlike some others around here, I have faith in the Rockets to know if the kid is ready to contribute in any way at alll.

    I guess time will tell on who is right...

    btw....to he guy who thinks we dont have a chance in hell of making it out of the 1st....would you care to make a tipjar or sig bet on that???

    put your money/sig where your mouth(fingers) is.
     
  7. ima_drummer2k

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    And everyone knows that you HAVE to have a reliable third option to win a championship.

    Sincerely,

    The 2006 Miami Heat
     
  8. hikanoo49

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    If only somehow they can miraculous gell and play to their potential, we could be in for a treat.

    Yao 24, 11, 2.5 blks
    Battier 14 , 7, 3 assist, 1 blk, 1 steal
    Snyder 11 pts, 6 rebs, 3 assist
    Tmac 28, 8, 7 assist
    Alston 14 pts, 4, 7 assist

    jl 8 pts, 2 reb, 4 assist
    hayes 6 pts, 7 rebs
    howard 9 pts, 7 rebs
    Vspan 5 pts, 2 assist
    Dikembe 4 pts, 6 rebs





    MAN.. we are in trouble.. :(
     
  9. JuNx

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    The one thing that I like is that we are adding youth, to compete with teams like phoenix and dallas. Now I think that we need a young F/C to be looking into the future for deke.
     
  10. jdrock

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    I give them a B- so far.

    Right now this team is looking like a pretty good upgrade from the team that took Dallas to 7 games 2 years ago. Our biggest change from last year to this year is going to be the health of Yao and TMac.

    We've gotten more athletic and younger, which is something we've been trying to do for severaly years now. Right now our average age is about 27, and that's including Sura and Deke (33 and 40).

    I think it's unfortunate CD wasn't able to land James, but based on his comments after the deal, I'm glad he's not a Rocket. Yes, he's a good player, but he's only looking to get paid. That will only take you so far.

    I'm a fan of the Battier trade. The only downside is that we didn't get something extra from Memphis. Yeah, I don't care about losing Gay. That highlight clip only has like 5 clips of impressive moves.. the rest is just uncontested dunks.

    Novak was a great pickup. Seems like he can outdo Reddick in terms of shooting and has a size advantage. If he puts on some pounds, he could really contribute.

    We'll have to wait and see what VSpan and JL3 can do in the NBA. I have hopes, but still waiting to see.

    If we can land a backup 4/5, we're set.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    I think we are A LOT better than last year, especially coming into the season.

    I was fooled by the Dallas 7 game playoff series defeat into thinking that team could compete, but it couldn't it was too old in too many areas.

    This team is young AND talented, and with Tmac healthy and Yao confident and healthy, and you add in Battier a proven NBA player, we are MILES better than last year.

    We do have some unknowns, but I LOVE THAT !! It reminds me of Sam Cassell coming in his rookie year, or Robert Horry in his 2nd year.........

    We have a good mix of veterans and young players....and all of them SMART basketball players from good programs.....

    I see 55-63 wins if Tmac and Yao stay healthy...and that makes my nipples ROCK HARD.....BABY !!

    DD
     
  12. vlaurelio

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    you're right

    miami heat's role players = houston's role players
     
  13. m_cable

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    So let me get this straight. Double D's nipples are Rock Hard?

    Wow, that was immature even by ClutchBBS standards. Oh well.
     
  14. thewaterox

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    Yeah having some unknows makes things exciting because it's all about the potential the young guys have. Our coach doesn't like unknows and I guess that's human nature, but it's kind of ironic that we trade Gay and then sign V-span and snyder.

    The win now policy got tweaked when plan B and C had to be implemented. :D
     
  15. thewaterox

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    [​IMG]


    :D :D
     
  16. The Veeg

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    I agree wholeheartedly with your statement with the exception of the Rocket's botching the Mike James deal. I thought the Rocket's were better off letting him walk then locking their cap room for another long term older player. Many teams find success in merging younger players with veterans. In short spurts throughout a game, youth can be a real advantage but having the veterans (Yao, T-Mac, JHow, Alston, Battier, etc) to close games and play the majority of the minutes allows the youth to be served correctly.

    I believe the best deal this offseason was Battier no matter what we gave up to get him. As many analysts have stated, "The Rocket's do not have a vocal leader" which is actually correct. Yao and Tmac are Superstars but both are more quiet than outspoken and they NEEDED the ultimate leader in Battier as much as he will probably need them to grow in his career. You will all see that this move should be considered the best move of the offseason, mark my words.

    Anyway, good moves all around even the low cost ones. I agree one more player is needed but I think this team is better then the one they had two years ago which won over 50+ games by the way. I give the offseason a B+.

    Peace
     
  17. ima_drummer2k

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    Yep, they're basically a wash. Do we really need a 3rd scoring option? Sounds crazy, but look:

    Wade = 28.4
    Shaq = 18.4
    Walker = 13.3
    J Williams = 9.3
    ______________
    69.40 PPG

    TMac = 24.4
    Yao = 22.3
    Skip = 12.1
    JH = 11.8
    ______________
    70.60 PPG

    Of course, this depends on TMac and Yao's health, but that's what I've been saying all along.
     
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  18. vlaurelio

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    doesn't third scoring option also mean someone who can step up and double his scoring when one of 2 the all stars are injured or cannot play?

    i'm pretty sure shaq or wade were out quite a number of games too..
     
  19. Rockets-R-Us

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    No point in summarizing the entire off-season until it's over, but I'm not nearly as impressed as DD and others seem to be.

    Truly guys (and gals ;) ), if our latest additions (Snyder, V-Span, JLIII) are such gifted and talented athletes, and have SO MUCH potential, none of them would be on the discount rack!!

    On the heels of their very significant injuries, we've got to see Yao and Tracy get through 80-95 % of a full season without further injury to be sure they can use both as the nucleus going forward...

    Reluctantly, I still have major concerns about Tracy's back and big men with foot problems have not traditionally fared well afterward (see Bill Walton and Rik Smits among others).

    Also, I LOVE Battier as a player, but I remain far more convinced than many on this board that Gay will become an All Star as either a SF or eventually as a PF (a certainty if he's ever traded to the Eastern Conference...). The guy has upside that no one but TMac and Yao have on this team!!

    I'll go ahead and issue a conditional C- (based soley on moves so far) until the ROX do something more impressive than bringing in the low-cost, POSSIBLE high upside moves they've made since Draft night.

    And for those who keep denigrating others for b****ing about Gay vs. Battier, I would still have rather had several of the more promising players available at #8 than Mr. Battier, because as of now, the ROX have absolutely NO PLAN for the future should either Yao or TMAC become injury prone.

    Finally, if we had a coach capable of "DEVELOPING" talent I would be significantly more optimistic than I am currently. JVG has, to date, proven himself to be inferior as an offensive coach. To me he's even become suspect as a "defensive specialist."

    Anyway.... I'll continue to hold on, wait, and pray the ROX have at least one B+ move left before training camp begins.
     
  20. Dr of Dunk

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    Do you have a clip of Stromile Swift's dominant college career as well? Thx.


    :D
     

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