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Ok, down 0-2, going into Utah, what would you do?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. SamFisher

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    Guess what: use the search function to see why you're wrong

    That's great, that's really really great. So you still believe he's "more NBA-ready than Sam Cassell" and the team's best perimeter defender at guard?

    That's amusing, and makes you look dumber than usual. I wonder why the best perimeter defender on the team was last seen whining to the media that it was unfair to make him play man-to-man defense in the NBA - perhaps he didn't want to embarrass his teammates by showing his superior perimeter defending skills?
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Dude, stop lying...you have not been in the GARM with nearly the ferocity...you are a JVG only fan, just admit it.

    Just look at your posting history lately, other than this thread most of your posts do NOT regard the Rockets


    I said at the time they both came into the league that V-Span was arguably more NBA ready than Cassell......just my opinion bro....

    As for perimeter defender....yes, have you seen anyone at the PG or SG spot take a charge on the perimeter ALL YEAR....V-Span was the best.

    He did say he needed help, that doesn't mean he is not the best we had...

    And how is any of this rehasing of old tired arguments that neither of us is going to change, relevant to the thread topic?

    Thanks again for coming into a thread just to be a sniping Arse......you have again proven that you would rather personally attack a poster than discuss the Rockets...


    Well done sir, now roll over and give JVG a good morning kiss....boyo.

    DD
     
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  3. TeamUSA

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    so what is it Sam? you're always provoking DD everytime you show up here.. you expecting him to break and say something stupid that can trigger a lawsuit? or you're just practicing your crossexamination skills because you think DD brings out your best sh8t?
     
  4. SamFisher

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    No - you were more emphatic than that. Far more.

    1. you have changed the argument (last year you claimd he was a much better overall defender - not just taking charges)

    2. you have provided no proof to back it up - how many charges DID he take last year? You don't know, you're just assuming (probably because he's white and european) that he flops and took a lot of charges.

    (aside: I should say that given his lack of quckness - taking a charge is a good option for him since he can't really guard NBA players otherwise).

    3. Do you want me to dig up V-span's defensive numbers from last year? They aren't pretty - and are in fact incredibly bad, like his entire performance. Please don't go anectdotal either - he got crossed over by kyle korver

    so in conclusion: this point blows horse groins. Stop humiliating yourself.



    LOL - yes I'm sure there's a lot of incisive, intelligent discussion left in "hey let's play MY favorite players!" routine.

    Let me suggest an alternative hypothesis: let's not and say we did, ok chief?
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  5. Precision340

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    AB is so quick he can get to the rim almost at will... maybe that's what we need in the opening quarter to set the tone... at the same time making DWill play a little harder on defense... the only issue is that DWill will look to take advantage of his size
    I'm not against starting Rafer... but if he's struggling I'll sub him with AB... we can't get behind early on their home floor
     
  6. DaDakota

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    What, nothing to say about the thread topic?

    Down 0-2, going into Utah, what would you do?

    Oh, I know...argue about your perceptions of last year's tired old arguments.......WELL DONE SAM...that sounds like fun.......


    DD
     
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  7. DaDakota

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    I agree, I think the only time we have looked like a decent team on offense in the entire series is in game 2 when AB was running the point.

    TMac needs help, give it to him....it may not be enough but you have to try something...

    DD
     
  8. No Worries

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    We have played soft and without fire. We can go quietly into the night ... or ... we take the mother*****er down. No easy points. No easy rebounds. When you foul, take the mother*****er down. Put the hurt on. If a Jazz player steps out on a pick, lay him out in the first row. If a Jazz player flops or tries to take a charge, lay him out in the second row.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    I always wondered why players don't fall directly on top of a flopper and lay into them.

    I mean just come crashing down like you tripped over their flop and use their bodies as a cushion to break your fall......make them pay for their flop.

    If they did that, I doubt flopping would be as prevelant.

    DD
     
  10. TeamUSA

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    DD = SamFisher

    Can you pls check their IP Clutch? :D
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Oh man, hardly.....LOL

    DD
     
  12. SamFisher

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    all your threads have nothing to do with basketball and everything to do with YOU and why your favorite players/style etc is not being utilized - so I don't know why you're so upset that the topic strays back to you, your favorite subject in your weekly "hey let's play MY favorite young players!" thread :confused:
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Down 0-2, going into Utah, what would you do?

    DD
     
  14. SamFisher

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    Trade mcgrady for ginobili.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Ok, down 0-2, going into Utah, what would you do?

    Come on Sam don't be afraid to put yourself out there and discuss the team.

    That is what a BBS is for...come on, you can do it.....

    DD
     
  16. TeamUSA

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    I would pick on you.. :p
     
  17. SamFisher

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    If i were to say "not play novak or brooks" I'd be contributing as much as you have in this glorious thread - just like the way you did. So go ahead and mark me down for saying it. BANG - now we're even - it's fun being a contributor!
     
  18. HillBoy

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    Sorry Dakota but I'm afraid that Sam has you here. This is yet another thread where you trumpet the playing of your favorite players. Last year it was V-Span and you personally reviled JVG for his failure in the NBA. You scoffed at the fact that JVG won 52 games last season with Yao missing 32 games and Tmac missing 16 (I believe) and you refused to acknowledge the severe shortcomings of the players he had to work with. No no no, it was HIS fault alone for what happened last season in the Utah series. The players who failed to produce on the court (which BTW is what they're being paid to do) had NOTHING to do with it at all - starting with Mr. "It's On Me". Whatever happens is the coach's fault alone. Forget about the fact that the team that ultimately won it all - San Antonio - played the game exactly the way that JVG preached. Your attitude was then as it is now: that the guys sitting at the end of the bench can get the job done when your front line players can't.

    This year it's the same song, different verse and I can see why folks like Sam have grown weary of this especially after last year when your season long tirade against JVG reached epic proportions. So now it's Aaron Brooks aka Mini Me who you consider to be the one who will save us from certain disaster. So let me see if I understand your line of thinking here: The Utah Jazz are carving up the Rockets with their size and strength advantage at virtually every position so your solution would be to go all out tiny at the point and to play a guy with no defense at the 4 who'd have a horrible time getting his shot off against the same guys who are giving Tmac fits. Oh and you'd bench a guy (Head) whose game has completely disintegrated (well duh!). This is going to change the dynamics at work here and give Utah some pause? Now let's assume for a minute that Adelman were to grant your request and make these moves. Just what makes you think they'd be able to turn things back in the Rockets' favor? Of one thing I am certain: if this plan were to go up in smoke you'd be right there blaming Adelman for being a terrible coach who didn't make the right "adjustments".

    I've come to understand that you have a tendency to fall in love with certain players (Spanoullis, Reddick, Brooks, Novak) and that's OK. But you let your affection for certain players impact your objectivity. In fact, you become completely emotional on the subject which makes reasonable dialog with you difficult to impossible. Case in point: the first two games should have provided you with more than enough evidence to know that the Rockets are losing because they don't match up well physically with the Jazz. Now logically speaking, if the Rockets' best players don't match up well against the Jazz, what leads you to believe that the guys sitting on the bench who, by definition, are not as good which is why they're on the bench, will fare any better? Adelman's no dummy of a coach (and neither was JVG) and if the solution was really that obvious, wouldn't he have tried it by now? Especially in game 2 which was a "Must Win" game? Also, wouldn't Sloan already have an answer for this strategy? After all, he's no dummy of a coach either.
     
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    Down 0-2 and believing in your team and the entire season means you do not throw Brooks out there. Now you get Rafer Alston back and as you remember when there was a stretch where Alston was out earlier in the season and we went on a losing streak then too. It was then that we realized that as Alston goes so do the Rockets. Unfortunate but true.

    What you do is play your battle tested veterans and the most athletic players you got. This means Battier, T-Mac, Deke, Hayes, Alston. I don't know if Scola is ready for prime time. His 14 pts and 5 rebounds were ok but not great for playing over 40 minutes. Landry is still the energizer bunny and best coming off the bench as is Bobby Jackson. Brooks and Head are ok but Head seems to go silent in pressure games. Last year he was among the league leaders in 3 pt percentage but disappeared during the playoffs.

    Battier needs to step his game up to help T-Mac out. Deke needs to score a bit more but we need his monster shotblocking and rebounding. Hayes will at least challenge Boozer. Alston, yeah we need him to actually hit his teardrops and score about 18-25 pts. Then we got a chance.
     
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    I like your recommendations the most. This is exactly what we need.
     

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