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OIG Report on Comey

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Aug 29, 2019.

  1. tallanvor

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    Not Mueller, Rosenstien, or Barr made this claim. No authority has made this claim. Also its wrong.

    This is opposed to Comey and Hillary who both have violated policy/law according to the DoJ.
     
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    They didn't violate any laws. Comey violated employer guidelines. He didn't break sny laws hence why no charges.
     
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  3. FranchiseBlade

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    The criteria for violating the law was laid out. There are three criteria. Mueller's report shows the evidence. Which part of the three criteria do you believe was not met?
     
  4. Commodore

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    J Edgar Comey, scary stuff

     
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    Bit of a shame that Comey will be remembered in history as a hero in all this.

    Overshadows his questionable pre election night statements on those silly emails.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    He did violate FBI policy. I don't think we can forsake policy just because the President is who he is. The report makes it clear that Comey didn't follow the policy. It is true that he committed no crime, so his transgressions weren't criminal. I guess to Trump supporters that is all that matters given their reaction to the Mueller report etc.

    But the rest of us shouldn't lower our standards.
     
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    I’m not going through this again. At least 5 times I have posted direct quotes from the report and every single time you ignored it.

    Either take your head out of your ass and read the full report or stop posting the same false BS again.

    I cannot decide if you are unintelligent or purposely obtuse but at this point it doesn’t matter because you are obviously willfully ignorant.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Comey’s biggest flaw that is his criticism from Democrats on his handling of Hillary’s email debacle is the same flaw we keep on seeing over and over from DOJ leadership. It’s this notion that you are mindful of the politics of your decision to a fault, and you pound your chest about your decision to do nothing essentially.

    Horowitz is doing this with the IG report which is 60 + pages where the first 50 pages are just the facts of why there is essentially no crime here, then at the end going to great lengths to pound your chest with sanctimonious talking down of the person in question.

    -Comey did this with Hillary
    -Barr did this with Muellers report
    -Mueller kinda did this with Trump (should have just been a more straight up referral to Congress instead of the weirdness of the report)
    -Horowitz is doing this with Comey
    So on so on...

    Obviously in this case with Comey and his memos, I think he did the right thing and history will be kinder to him because of this one act. There was nobody else to go to except for the press. Who else was there... Trump?? Do you report his misconduct to the person conducting it? No... obviously imo he did the right thing.... but what he did shines a spotlight on his biggest flaw which is to sanctimoniously beat your chest in public instead of just investigate, and charge crimes if there is evidence of a crime.

    Same flaw we see over and over again in this era with multiple senior leaders including Horowitz and don’t get me started on Bill F-ing Barr’s BS.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Try hopelessly partisan.

    This is the exact "whataboutism" playbook we've seen and pretty much all defenders of this Admin have.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Mueller went to great lengths to not do that even though the evidence against Trump is very obvious and damning. The weirdness of his report is that he was put in a very difficult position of essentially laying out the reasons why someone should be indicted while having his hands tied by policy that he can't indict. Further he really wanted to stay out of the spotlight and leave the ultimate decision to what he sees as the proper Constitutional course. Impeachment through Congress.

    Comey though has a great sense of self-importance and was willing to push issues and make things happen beyond his purview. Ironically the country might've been served better having the sober, thorough and very cautious Mueller leading the Clinton emails investigation and Comey leading the Russian Collusion / Obstruction investigation.
     
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    You’re arguing with Tal...some guy that either can’t read wortha **** or just reads better than all of us
     
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  13. FranchiseBlade

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    I get it that it is good for people to know what Trump was doing. However, it is a bad precedent to set that employees can decide to violate the policy whenever they see fit. I certainly wouldn't want Trump's administration to be able to use that.
     
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    I respectfully disagree. Under the circumstances, I would approve of Chris Wray doing the same if AG whomever was recused from an investigation and President Joe Biden asked Wray to shut down an investigation into Andy McCabe or whomever.

    I think the problem in the end is the lack of independence in our government with the DOJ and the White House. If the White House is committing crimes, it’s hard for part of their own department of justice to police their own bosses. Especially when the AG and his deputy were only recently confirmed by that president and the AG is recused.

    I would hope that the next Presidency creates some mechanisms for creating more independence for the DOJ so an FBI Director can properly address high crimes at the highest level.
     
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  15. NewRoxFan

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    trump lies, about everything, all the time...

     
  16. No Worries

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    Well it is not like he read the IG report ... or even its summary ... you know too many words and no mentions of Trump.
     
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    I understand it. But I just generally don't agree with 'the ends justify the means' style of operating a government. Yes, there were extenuating circumstances in this case. But if we leave it up to one person to decide when the extenuating circumstances warrant violating policies, then the policies become meaningless.

    What I respect more is if Comey or whoever said flat out that they did violate policy because they felt it was necessary and were willing to accept the consequences. Facing the consequences of violating the policy are worth it in this case.

    I totally understand where your coming from, and in my heart I agree with it. But in my head I have to believe making exceptions based on one person's assessment is reckless.
     
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  19. Rocketman1981

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    Jim Comey is a sanctimonious pos whose ego and actions have resulted in harmful affects on our election processes.
    It seems he was trying to create files on everyone in a J Edgar Hooveresque move and according to Overstock CEO
    and FBI source Patrick Byrne he created scenarios in order to entrap people.

    What he did with Hillary Clinton right before the election was disgraceful as well as the bullshit he and his cronies
    concocted to create and feed a false Russia narrative on Trump. This guy duped the Republicans/Democrats and
    needs to be held accountable for his terrible actions and manipulations.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    LOL... "according to Overstock CEO..."


    The Overstock CEO Who Fell for an Accused Russian Spy
    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/overstock-ceo-patrick-byrnes-odd-fling-with-maria-butina.html
     

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