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Ohio State Is Doing Exactly What They Needed to Do

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Manny Ramirez, Jan 3, 2003.

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  1. mduke

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    The point is that the title of OSU's is tainted in many people's minds. The last team I can think of that won a NC that had this much of a tainted title was the '90 Colorado team that benefited from a 5th down against Missouri.
    tainted or not, OSU finished #1. And how many of these people are Miami fans?

    Tired?? I could go on forever about this because I will NEVER ever accept it. To paraphrase Ted "Theodore" Logan, it was bogus, dude.
    In your mind it was bogus. In others, it's not. Deal with it.
     
  2. Rocketman95

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    The Rockets' titles are tainted in many people's minds, too. What's your point?
     
  3. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    duke,

    In this thread alone, you had DaDakota, GriffinFan, ewfd, coma, drapg, Rockets R Us, and gr8-1 all say it was a bad call.

    Gee, that is 7 people right there that aren't Miami fans. Plus that doesn't count the guy from Richmond.

    I *could* go look for more articles from other newspapers that were like the Richmond one but I have other things to do.

    RM95,

    Don't be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. You know why people say that about the Rockets....because of Jordan.

    His playing those 1 and 3/4 seasons is hardly comparable to a referee making a call that had an absolute outcome to it. Come on, you are better than that and you know it.
     
  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Quit making bad arguments, and I'll get better too. :rolleyes:

    I'm neither a Miami or an Ohio State fan. Neither is Major. I'm pretty sure mduke isn't either. So, seven people on a friggin' message board says it's a bad call, and you're using that for proof that it was in fact a bad call? And I'm the one being arugumentative for the sake of being argumentative? :rolleyes:

    If you're going to discredit the preceding 60 minutes + of a game, there's no arguing with you...you're off your rocker. What's the point of playing the ****ing game then? Let's make football a one play game from now on. Jeez.
     
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  5. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    *sigh*, did you not read duke's post? He said that biased Miami fans thought it was a bad call, but I gave him 7 (8 counting the Richmond guy) examples of people who are not biased Miami fans saying that it was a bad call. I disproved that statement. There is nothing magical about what I did. Why you are twisting it around to something else is beyond me.

    Who said I was discrediting the first 60 or so minutes? All I said and have been saying is that if you don't call that penalty, the game is OVER. Period, finis, end of story. Yea, Miami didn't play their best game and OSU played over their heads, yet it took 2 OTs and a bad call for OSU to win. That right there shows a disproportionality between the 2 teams.

    Once again, look at my baseball analogy....down by a run and have a runner on base with 2 outs and in the bottom of the 9th inning. Guy hits a homer that looks like it won the game. Umpire rules no home run and game ends with guy making out. But, according to you, that umpire's call didn't cost them the game! Amazing...

    At any rate, I keep waiting for my request (of the thread being closed) to be granted, but nothing you or anyone else say will make me change my stance. And it looks like that my stance will not affect yours, so lets just end this thread here with an agree to disagree and talk music or something else.
     
  6. 4chuckie

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    Great teams play big in big games.

    When was Miami's best game this year? Giving up 40 some to Va Tech, or was it Florida State with the missed kick or maybe it was Rutgers. Miami has more talent than anyone (maybe the samer as Texas) but they did not play any great games this year. They got complacent and let their talent carry them. THen they got lazy and cocky and OSU beat them.

    Watch the game on Sunday Manny on ABC (at least the replay is on here in C-bus maybe not nationwide), or Saturday night on ESPN classic, if you can honestly say the DB did not grab Gamble past 5 yards downfield then we cannot continue this conversation. A flag was warranted. Now the timing of the flag was a differnet story, it was late but it was justified. Watch the entire play Manny not just the 1 second clip ESPN showed.

    And as for taking 2 OTs and a bad call. Well it could have taken Miami 50 freaking plays to score from the 2 yard line in OT. Nice offense. Guess if you pop you guys in the mouth the offensive juggernaut turns into every other overrated offense we played this year (Texas Tech, WSU, PSU, etc). You don't get the kind of hits OSU landed on Miami from playing anyone else this year.

    Also if Miami had any sense why did you not put a shadow on Krenzel? Oh well again it's the fact that out coaching was better than yours, our D was better than yours and your O was effective at times but we eventually wore them out.

    Oh one last thing...

    SCOREBOARD
     
  7. Manny Ramirez

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    Chuckie,

    I knew that I would eventually hear from you. So, you could see Gamble being held by Sharpe and him (Gamble) not holding Sharpe as well BEFORE the 2 reached the end zone and before the ball was in the air? Amazing and formidable. But of course the call was warranted, lol or is it that you just want some validation about that call, hmmm? Well, you sure as hell are not going to get it from me. And no, Tressel didn't outcoach Coker because if he did then he wouldn't have needed 2 overtimes and a bad call to win the game. It wasn't like '93 when Stallings outcoached Erickson. And to make a long story short, I don't care what the scoreboard said, I know in my heart that Miami is the better team. So, you can say everything you want until you are blue in the face, it will fall on deaf ears.

    And you know what? Miami has won 5 National Championships in less than 20 years while Ohio State has won 2 National Championship in a little over 34 years.

    Call me crazy, but I would prefer the 5 in less than 20 than the 2 in 34.

    AND that is the real SCOREBOARD
     
  8. ChucklesG

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    National Championships from years past matter more than current ones? Congrats Manny, I think you made the entire board dumber for posting that.
     
  9. 4chuckie

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    Manny-
    Bottom line:

    OSU Wins, Miami Loses

    You can keep your old titles I could care less. OSU is the champs until next January.

    Take your titles and your rings, stare at them, then watch the NFL draft and watch all your second teamers get drafted and just wonder why you couldn't beat OSU

    Oh in case you can't figure out why you lost:
    1. Coaching
    2. Heart
    3. Knowing how to win tough games

    Anyways Manny you guys played tough, Miami certainly is the 2nd best team in the nation. Maybe if you pracvtice real hard you can play in the Sugar Bowl next year, and then you can talk again.

    PS-
    Miami was lucky to get to OT. The 3rd down catch by OSU (before the punt) was a catch and you got away with a clip on the punt
    return.
     
  10. Cohen

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    ...is it baseball season yet?
     
  11. Major

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    Call me crazy, but I would prefer the 5 in less than 20 than the 2 in 34.

    AND that is the real SCOREBOARD


    Hey if this is the case, mduke should be taunting you right now about how OU kicks Miami's ass.

    lol or is it that you just want some validation about that call, hmmm? Well, you sure as hell are not going to get it from me.

    I'm sure he's terribly disappointed... Or maybe that national title helps! :)
     
  12. IVFL

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    Oh Geez I cant belive I am responding to this monster of a thread.

    Manny, its over. Deal with it. Right now you are still in the whining phase of the game. Thinking of every little thing that did not go Miami's way and b****ing about it. I understand I have been there. I am a Vikings fan, I know what this is like. Eventually you are going to have to put the pipe down so to speak. .. . . . this thread is the pipe manny.

    Also Manny stop with the Miami is the better team. . . .well they may have better athletes but thats why the games are played. I Ohio got it done as a team, they won this game fair and square. where there some bad calls yeah, but they went both ways. This game was well called. Its not like Miami got hosed or something.

    Finally, I saw an interview with the reff that was making the incomplete sign on "the play" he said it was not his responsiblity to call the PI, rather call wether the ball was caught or not. He even said it should have been PI, it was the right call. He also said if it had not been called thats what people would have been talking about. There you go manny maybe that will help you move on. Not all of us can have a favorite college football team that is largley sucsessfull and go to national championships. try being a Vandal fan and only a Vandal fan. I think you would find that much harder than rooting for a constant winner, where the only thing you have to complain about is one game your team lost. I have to complain about 10.:D


    But at least they beat MTSU:p
     
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  14. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Chuck,

    Considering that post was only like your 4th post ever in this forum, thanks for speaking for the whole Hangout forum. I'm sure they appreciate it!

    Um Chuckie,

    Say all you want about that Gamble catch out of bounds, the fact is that the playclock expired so that play should have NEVER counted. And thanks for the condescending tone, bud about how we are the 2nd best team but if we "pracvtice" real hard, we'll be there next year. What the hell is "pracvtice"?

    Keep searching for that validation...you will be searching for it just like you would with the Holy Grail.

    And IVFL,

    If YOU really THINK that the game was well-officiated, then there is no need to say anything else about your post. It would be a futile exercise.
     
  15. keeley

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    pracvtice = typo.

    you = broken record.

    thread = done.
     
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