I would do that just to get rid of Mike James. Hughes though, without Alston who runs the offense? That would leave us with just Brooks. I was thinking something along the lines of Snyder+James for Simmons+Marshall. Marshall saves you a year over James.
Let Brooks take over the reign as PG. It's not like we're going anywhere fast with Alston running PG. Besides I doubt the Cavs would give up a starter for 2 bench warmers. Let Hughes be that reliable 3rd scorer that can create his own shot at the 2 and also help out Brooks at the PG spot. Also we can have T-mac bring the ball up every now and then as well. Worst case scenario it means No more Alston at the PG spot and we get rid of James and Snyder who obviously get no PT and aren't happy any way.
You guys are making some ridiculous trade proposals. D. Jones, L. Hughes, D. Marshall!?!?! No one in that team besides Lebron James is worth going after. There are reason their offense is so depleted. Larry "the Mason" Hughes is shooting an abysmal 35%. Pavlovic is shooting so horribly is scary to even to entertain the thought of a Rafer/Pavlovic line up. I don't care what anyone says, I would never trade for anyone in the Cavs besides Lebron James. NEVER, STAY AWAY!!!!!
I think you over value Mike James. Marshall saves you a year and Simmons gives you a big body. Im not to high on Hughes to begain with but if we could land him for Mike James there is alot of upside to the trade. Hughes is atleast a good on ball defender unlike Mike James. Kirk Snyder is trash might as well give them a filler since that is who their after. Hughes would be similar to Doug Christie LeBron James is a pipe dream why would they give him up thats ridiculous.
at least larry hughes is a big SG that can defending opposing guards. luther head and brooks get crushed night in and night out.
Thats what im talking about. Hughes brings something else that James dont bring and that is good on the ball defense. Also he can play off the ball better than James. He can also create his own shot and attack the basket. I think if Houston landed Hughes they would use him to guard the likes of Deron Williams and Baron Davis down stretches. Hughes can also run the floor better and is a big part of what the Cavs do. Kinda like what Doug Christie did for Sacramento. It could be a steal for Houston. But if it goes sour then it would be a bad deal. I think its worth a gamble. Hughes would play back up point guard some nights. James and Snyder are useless anyways. This also creates more minutes for Brooks.
Larry Hughes is making 12 millions a year for the next three years. I don't think any team is willing to take on his contract, Cleveland is stuck with him. I like the idea from the previous page, Kirk Snyder for Nachbar.
If we threw in Bonzi along with Snyder, could we possibly get Gibson? That lil guy's got game. We need a confident, composed, PG like him. But then again, with Rafer, Gibson, and Brooks, we'd probably have the smallest, physically-weakest PG rotation.
I meant Damon Jones, not Dwayne. I'm not over-valuing Mike James what-so-ever. I never said I wouldn't trade him but what I am saying is to at least make the trade worth it. I guess Marshall could save us a year which would be pretty good, but on the other hand if Hughes came in the deal, how special would this make us? This board complains ridiculously about the shooting woes of this team. The defense is not all that great, although at times it does seem great. Adding Larry Hughes would further the problems of this team. He isn't a spot up shooter first all. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective (which we already have T-mac doing this). What is the point of gaining his defensive prowess, if he is worthless on the offensive side? At least Luther brings a little bit of offense to this team. Larry on the other hand would bring sub-par defense (he's never been good defensively; don't try to argue his 1st team or 2nd team defense selections), questionable decision making (something we have plenty of in this team), and put is more in a financial hole. Mike James might be useless to this team, but at least he doesn't cost 12M per year. It is ridiculously for any of you all to even think of making Hughes our "Christie" because during his years with the Kings he shot a nice percentage, was good from the three (good spot up shooter), and ran the offense nicely and played much better than Hughes ever will.
Another thing I would like to add to this thread. No one in this Rocket team besides Yao or T-mac would make the Cavs even think about giving the Rockets Daniel Gibson. Not even a package of Aaron and Landry combined unless we brought back a huge contract like Hughes (and Gibson isn't worth that much to put this team in financial scrutiny).
Stop talking about Gibson. THERE IS NO WAY THE CAVS ARE GIVING UP GIBSON FOR OUR SCRAPS. I'm looking at this from the perspective of the Cavs organization, not a fan. He's probably third on the list, behind Lebron and Big Z of tradeable players. The Cavs would only listen to deals HEAVILY in their favor involving Gibson. Be realistic people. Would you trade Damon Jones for Scola? I didn't think so. Gibson is already a steady 30 min off the bench and shoots 46% from behind the arc and is the inevitable heir to the pg position unless we get something great off free agency. I (as a Cavs fan) would love to move Hughes. But his contract sucks more then his jump shot. As I heard someone on sports radio over the weekend say, "Hughes is one of the biggest free agent busts in recent years". (As a Rockets fan Just say no to Hughes. I don't even think it's actually possible for us to take on his contract, is it?
i believe so. however, it won't be to cleveland. they don't have a trade exception large enough to take on his contract. FYI, teams that do have a TE large enough to absorb snyder's contract are: Mavs, Warriors, Wolves, Suns, and Sonics. The Warriors, Wolves, and Sonics are under the luxury tax which makes them the most likely recipients of snyders ending contract.
lets make this as plain and simple as possible.. the cavs need depth at ALL positions the rockets need to (according to les) get under the LT threshold so the cavs are probably looking at all the teams over the LT that want to get under and looking at their middle to end of rotation players to see if they can nab someone/anyone to help out bron bron..This means that we get nothing out of the deal unless its some expiring contract or some TE thrown in