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Oh, what the heck. Let's predict Yao's year...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hardeji, Aug 21, 2003.

  1. tierre_brown

    tierre_brown Member

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    Yao's 2nd season:

    17.6 ppg
    11.2 rpg
    2.2 bpg
    2.1 apg
    1.9 topg

    32.4 mpg

    Just one question for all of you BBSers: Yao has supposedly beefed up and is on the Rox weight program. However, his RPG from most of you is hovering aroun 9-10. I know it is somewhat tough for players to grab 11 boards a game, but Yao is taller and stronger than last year. I think with his new mentality, he can grab a lot more, improving on last year's numbers a bit. What do you think?
     
  2. cheshire

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    Yao's Year...

    Double double (16-11) ; 55% FG %, 80% FT% 2.5 BPG, 3.5APG, 1 SPG, 3 TOG...

    All-star; All-NBA second team; All-Defensive second team....; All-Interview Team...

    If JVG gets this team to play in the mold of the NYK defensive and half-court set mentality consistently, this team is capable of grinding out a 50 win season and a date in the post-season.

    I pray that this is the year that they get into the play-offs. It's been a long time between drinks....this has got to be the Year of the Rockets!
     
  3. BERSERKER

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    Those stat predictions are very optimistic of Yao's endurance.
     
  4. user

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    He will average about 25pts this coming season and around 30 next season. If you track his history, he need at least 3 years to fully dominant. So, don't push the limit too hard for now.

    He will not improve much on rebound. He has much more to learn on rebounding.
     
  5. The Game HHH

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    13.5ppg 8rpg Same As Last Year Or Worse
     
  6. Sane

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    It's nice to have someone who can actually average 10 rebounds.

    I think it's fair to say that if he averaged 8 rebounds last season, in less than 30 minutes, then we can expect him to average around 35 minutes and improve his rebounding technique through the new coaching staff and Pat Ewing, which would easily put him over 10 rebounds.

    Also, this team will be run through Yao Ming. JVG said it. I'm fairly sure that we're looking at Yao averaging 20 points if this team wants to be effective and grab a 7th seed.

    20.1pts
    10.3reb
    2.2blk
    2.8asst
    36min/game

    I think those numbers will put us in the playoffs very very comfortably, considering Steve will get his 20ppg.

    If JVG is going to give Stevie more freedom to score (by making Pike and Mobley feed Yao much more) then I expect his numbers will probably even go up to 23/7asst/5reb which is perfect.

    What's important to us is that Cat shoots a high %, and one of these 2 happens:

    1) Griffin has his breakout season, averages lots of rebounds, blocks, plays great D, and plays off Yao and Steve to get putbacks, alleyoops, and easy post-ups.

    or

    2) Mo drops some weight, and goes back to the way he played when Hakeem was here. His first season with us basically.
     
  7. rimbaud

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    That is hilarious. An almost 12 ppg predicted increase, but you say not to expect too much yet?

    Mine:
    16 ppg
    9 rpg
    2 bpg
    2 apg
     
  8. hardeji

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    Did Yao grow TALLER this year??? Where'd you hear that?
     
  9. user

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    Well, I was just half joking. You have no idea what this guy is capable to do if you focus the offense on him. In his shanghai days, they spent 3 years to drive his ppg to over 30. And he was skinny and weak at that time as we all know. Skillful but weak. Plus his team was a ****ty one before Yao started to dominant. And his old team is a ****ty one now after Yao went to NBA.

    This is why his old team thought that letting him go is a HUGE sacrifice on their side. It's like let MJ go after Bulls' Champoinship.

    He will get his 30ppg in his 3rd year in NBA. If he fails do that by the 3rd year, he will never be able to reach that level. Not a bust but not so great.

    Mark my words, 3 years!
     
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  10. rimbaud

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    user,

    Centers in the modern NBA do not score over 30ppg. If Yao ever gets to 25, he would be considered a powerhouse.
     
  11. RIET

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    If you subtract the skillful part, you just described every player in the CBA.
     
  12. user

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    This has nothing to do with modern basketball or classic basketball. It is about how to maximize the profit from the talents you have. Modern NBA does not have centers like Yao often, that's why most centers are not expected to score 30+ points in any game. This is true all over the world.

    Your best guy should score 25+ points no matter what position he plays. If your best guy happens to be a center, so be it.
     
  13. beyao

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    03-04...

    19.5 pts.
    11 reb
    3.5 assists
    2.5 blocks

    based on the following improvements over last season:

    scoring - more PT and JVG's offense will lead to 2-3 more baskets per game

    rebounds - more PT, add'l strength and adjustment to physical nature of NBA will lead to 2-3 more boards per game

    assists - more movement when Yao is on the block, as well as more touches in general

    blocks - JVG defensive system will funnel players into the teeth of the D, Yao will average one more at least one more swat per game.
     
  14. RIET

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    Tim Duncan averaged 23.3 ppg last year.
     
  15. user

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    His skill was not too special among CBA players at the time.

    My point is that he can dorminant among players at the roughly the same level. Once he adjusted to NBA, strength, toughness, pressure, he will simply dorminant.

    That's why he needs at least 3 years to adjust. He is not ready yet.
     
  16. Deuce

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    I would be happy with 18ppg, 10rpg, 2.5bpg, 3apg.

    I would really love to see him average a double/double. He should get more touches this year, play more minutes and be more acclimated to the NBA style of play so I expect his numbers to increase for sure.
     
  17. daoshi

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    Since JVG is the coach now, the pace of the Rox's game will be much slower than last year, which will take away some transitional points Francise & Mobley usually got. My prediction is that Yao will have a similar stats as last year, with noticable increase of rebound & assits.

    16.5 ppg
    10.5 rpg
    2.50 bpg
    3.50 apg
    2.50 TO



    --daoshi
     
  18. hardeji

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    I think Yao is capable of putting up some monster numbers in the next 2 to 3 years (i.e., 24, 14, 3+3).

    That said, the limiting factor is going to be his health. We saw teams beating him like a circus monkey (double & triple teaming with the hack-a-Shaq approach).

    I seriously doubt that his body can handle the abuse.
     
  19. verse

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    as long as yao's FT% is high, you'll never see the hack-a-shaq technique employed.
     
  20. yaonotyo

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    why do you think yao numbers would get worse:confused:
     

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