I agree. I think this is going to get messy and at best the Rockets will get a bitter, brooding Carl Landry back. I'm all about letting him go now and use the money to get someone with knees that are not made of glass. Landry's agent is just doing his job but I have never seen an NBA player's agent do such a horribly amateur job since Bonzi's guy cost him 36 million dollars two years ago. If Carl wants to run with the big boys he needs an agent whose name doesn't sound like a NASCAR driver and whose negotiating skills are not reminiscent of a rodeo auctioneer.
I agree. It seems Landry has a terrible agent, an amateur at the game of NBA contracts. He spouts and spouts, but truth is Morey is doing due diligence. It would be a dumb move to sign him and realize he has bad knees. I remember how poorly he played when he came back from the injury, since no one really knows what happened to cause the injury doing some tests only makes sense.
As you mentioned earlier, there are a lot risks with any surgical scope so it's still over the top to carry it out. Furthermore, a doctor now has confirmed he is fine. Perhaps he has some bald spots (perhaps a lot of active pro players have some) but if he can play fine now, why risk a surgical scope with all the possible risks. I know there is a lot money involved but IMO a surgical scope is still too much to ask for. But if Morey did it to scare off suitors, then I am really worried it may backfire. Can't imagine how Landry feels after all these. He lost his tooth, played very hard, carried the team a few times though he is just a bench player after being treated in his rookie contract. After proving himself, the Rockets still continued with such horrible treatments. He is not going for the max. contract where the entire franchise is depending on him. Morey has to come up with ways to let Landry know that the management is not trying undermine him or make him looked bad but needed to so to get rid of suitors so that he can stay in the Rockets and for a value that Rockets can afford (but telling his agent a different story).
*should make him untouchable?* NBA is a business .. Landry could jump through all kinds of hoops for the Rockets Take significantly less money to stay with the rockets would not matter if he was a deal breaker on getting some big name person . . his *ss would be shipped Vince Carter for Landry and Bjax . .. he'd be gone Artest for Landry and Head. . . He'd be gone . . . no matter what he does. . . Rocket River
Morey and the agent are just doing their dance. It's how the big leagues work. As for Landry pouting, maybe for a minute. But Landry isn't some petulant crybaby. He's lucky to be in the NBA at all and he knows it. He's a second round pick that got a chance and played well enough to stick. He's not a star; he's not even a starter. He'll play without complaint. His knee really does concern me. Remember when he hurt it? It was some "mystery injury" that I don't think we ever even got a straight answer on. Everyone assumed he'd miss a couple games, maybe three, and be back. He ended up missing a very significant amount of time, for what they called a "sprain." This guy's agent is no doubt threatening Morey that Landry will play in Europe before he signs for less than the full MLE. There's no way in hell Morey is just going to hand that money out to Landry because he's a nice guy. These are going to be heavy negotiations, not like signing a fat, broken-down Steve Francis. Landry's knee will be scoped or he will sign for less, period, with WHOEVER he signs with, likely the Rockets.
I like Carl Mutha F%#kin Landry!! He is a talented kid, but i don't believe he is worth over 2mill if even that. We need to focus on getting a legit scorer such as Maggette.
This also has the potential to be another black eye on the Rockets' medical staff. What was nothing more than "bumping knees with another player" turned into games missed and diminished performance upon his return. Now, months later there seems to be real concern over the same knee. Most guys bump knees with another player and are fine a few days later. Not the case here.
posted in another thread, but this doesn't sound like just posturing by Morey to me. It may be dancing by the agent BUT it is NOT in Morey's interest to have the Carl Landry signing take a long time. if there wasn't valid concern about the knee, he'd have been better off saying nothing, and offering Landry what he thinks fair value is to this Rockets team - i.e. some portion of the MLE, and then moving on. If someone else was planning on offering more, immediately out of free agency, you move on. If you are REALLY concerned about the knee, though, and REALLY want information, and it doesn't seem to be getting through to the other side, you have to let it be known that you are REALLY concerned. And as such, by default, it delays the process of signing Landry...
That's interesting. Thanks. I suppose there are still yet more layers to the onion that ClutchFans can only wonder about.
Maybe. But Morey has said frequently that it isn't likely the team will improve significantly through free agency. If there's a splash of any kind, it'll be through a trade. Morey and Landry's agent drug this signing process out all summer last year, too. I think Morey's simply determined not to overpay for the guy, seeing as how he is very big on cap flexibility. I just think we're seeing an almost exact repeat of what Landry and the Rockets went through last summer. It's probably in the Rockets' interest to have Landry all signed up in case a team wants to include him in trade talks, but I don't imagine Landry is at the top of the list of people the Rockets want to trade. He isn't untouchable, of course, but they're certainly not shopping him.
On the bright side, I think this is a good time to be asking for this kind of testing. If he was an unrestricted free agent, there is no way we could get away with it.
Well, it looks like Landry's agent and the Rockets are gonna be having some pretty damn contentious negotiations this summer. I think it's reasonable to ask Landry to get his knee scoped before he gets a contract, but I don't think it's a coincidence that Morey brought this issue up right before the FA period started.
cut landry lose already...add a couple more people to complete a sign and trade for Artest... i think i'm the only one that thinks Landry isn't gonna pan out...
1. Rockets need a better medical staff 2. Morey's concerns about Landry's knee is justified. Landry's performance before and after his injury was significantly different.
If his knee is fine, what is there really to worry about? I mean, there could be side-effects. But, there are also side-effects when people take simple medications. It be a risk I'm willing to take in order to make a few million.
Channel 2 news reported that the Rockets want Landry to get a MRI, which is far different than surgery. Which report is right?
