Nice to see you standing behind your team so early in the season. Watch out, the flames of your bandwagon are about to singe your a$$!! ------------------ Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and pimp-slap the mother****** upside the head!
Hey this is a longshot, but maybe Dallas would be willing to trade Najera for Mo Taylor and a couple of draft picks. Man!! would that be a steal.... Crack kills kid. [This message has been edited by Odiggidy (edited October 11, 2000).]
With all the b****y sarcasm aside! The Rockets wanted the game against Dallas. Dont' ask my why they were playing so hard for a preseason game. Could it be that every game counts in the mental aspect of a player? Come on Steve Francis played 40 minutes!!!! To come out and say it was just a preseason game, you obviously weren't seeing the game I was seeing. And the Rockets did a great job positioning themselves at the end. The Rockets played well, but... ...that was only when Najera wasn't playing. Your calling Najera a dirty player!! You've got some nerve! Just because the guy plays like a man with trees so much taller than him and out hustles them. Calling Najera a dirty player is tremendously weak. And my point was that I did not see any thing different last night from Najera from what he produced at Oklahoma every game. And sure he will tire soon being that the grind of the NBA is so much more than that of playing 1 game a week in college. But that is irrelevant once Najera becomes aclimated to the NBA. And somebody compared Najera to Rodman. Man that is some compliment. The Rodman of the Pistons was out of this world and a huge piece of the championships that Detroit won. Is that want you meant by comparing Najera to Rodman!!!! They both were 2nd rounders. Tremendous rebounders. But Najera is also a scorer! ------------------ The guns are cocked and the soldiers are in place, it's time to march and let the battles decide the war.
He will be about the same time I win the lottery. And for all the cracks about the draft, IMO Collier will be much much better than Najera. Count on it. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com
With everything aside. The mavericks wanted Najera. If the Rockets would have taken Najera, the mavs don't deal with the rocks and just take Najera with their pick. Best shot the rocks had at taking najera was with their 1st round pick. That price seems alittle high, even to me. But remember this, Najera is a guy with a lot to prove on vaster foundations than most players. He has the hopes of an entire nation behind him. ThaT IS WHAT GIVES HIM AN EDGE. Look Rudy said it himself, you can't measure a guy's heart!!! ------------------ The guns are cocked and the soldiers are in place, it's time to march and let the battles decide the war.
I figured I'd be reading a thread like this after last night's game. One preseason game and some thread about how Najera will be a future All Star and how much of a mistake the Rockets front office made. Anyone who actually watched the game, did you watch the Rockets frontcourt players closely? That is the portion of the game that really concerned me not Najera. The frontcourt players were making no effort to consistently box out and were just playing the flight of ball which is a terrible habit and will need to be nipped in the bud early by Rudy. When you dont box guys out, people like Najera just crash the glass and get offensive putbacks. Just wait till the regular season starts when teams start playing with a little more effort. Najera will have to actually get baskets out of offensive sets and will have to get boards against burly PFs that will be boxing him out. The guy is a tweener and will be eating a lot of leather. My only real concern last night was that the big men were not showing enough intensity on the glass for 48 mins. Early in the game, they did a nice job of rebounding, but then started faltering in that area. The main culprit last night I felt was Cato who was neither boxing out nor was able to hold onto the ball. I will give him the benefit of the doubt though as it was only one game and a preseason one at that. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
Okay...yeah...but as of 10/11/2000 I'll gladly trade Langhi's 2 points for "El Hoopo's" 23 pts. 2 steals and 9 boards...I am a fan...quote me. ------------------
Ahhhh im sick of people saying how good eduardo is now. He is not that good. For gods sake it was one preseason game in which he was the only one hitting the boards. Im still glad we drafted langhi, I think he will help this team. Unlike najera, langhi has a smooth shot and thats all this team needs, a guy who can spot up when franchise or mobley gets double teamed while driving who can knock down the open shot. Eduardo will do nothing and is nothing so please quit with all the why did we trade eduardo talk.He hustles alot like any player without much real skill. He shined in one game, give it a rest people. ------------------
It was not just one preseason game. Come on people, he has been doing the same thing he did last night for the last four years. How long will it take for you to acknowledge that he is a good player. Eduardo is better than atleast half the players in the first round. And whoever said Collier will be better than El Hoopo then you're smoking crack. ------------------
The reason the Rockets lost is because they shot 36% from the field.....and still only lost by 1, on the road. Najera an all-star? How bout Moochie Norris for MVP! I'm sure Najera could beat out Rasheed Wallace, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, and Chris Webber any day of the week. Najera outplayed Langhi, and it's hard to even say that, due to Langhi hardly playing. But, let's get realistic here. Calling Najera an all-star, and saying that Rudy made a bad choice based on ONE preseason game? A little premature, just the tiniest bit? I'm sure Rudy and co. saw a little more of a comparison of Langhi and Najera than we did. Let's just wait for Langhi to blow up against Charlotte. ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated.
I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that he is. And also- the Rockets coaching staff obviously thinks that too for picking Collier in the first round and not even taking Najera in the 2nd- how can an organization on crack finish 66-16? ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com [This message has been edited by The Cat (edited October 11, 2000).]
ShoeDude, I don't think most of the people here are saying that Najera is or will be better than Langhi. Most of them are saying that Collier being drafted where he was drafted was a mistake. I watched Collier play in the RMR and people said he wasn't mobile because of a bad back or the flu or something. Yet, I hear others that watched last night's game basically saying the same thing that I saw in the RMR game(s). Collier's defense amounted to impersonating a barn. I haven't seen too many people react so slowly to offensive movement and rotation. It was tragic to watch. But I'll give guys like The Cat, who obviously has seen more of him than I have, the benefit of the doubt and wait to see if he develops, but from what I saw, it would take a minor miracle for this guy to even be viable for more than 10 minutes a game. ------------------ I got nothin'.
Rudy said Collier had better than advertised foot speed. He seems to be a good fit, but it right now looks like he won't amount to any more than 5 mpg. Collier certainly wasn't drafted for his defense. I wonder if Rudy and co. would've made a different decision if they knew they were getting Mo. (I also asked a question in another thread, why didn't we do the deal Cleveland made with Chicago, as Crawford would've lasted to us. Could've been a cash thing, but wouldn't Mihm be more appealing?) I interpret "we shouldn't have traded Najera" as "Najera will be better than the guy we traded him for [Langhi]." I'm surprised Collier didn't get more PT. ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated. [This message has been edited by NIKEstrad (edited October 11, 2000).]
For the last time, guys, get it straight: Collier was not traded straight up for Pryz. Damn. Get it in your heads. Pryz was traded for Collier and Minnesota's 1st round pick in 2001, likely a mid 1st rounder. And this summer's crop will be very deep, especially in big men. There is no way to evaluate whether we have gotten equal value for Pryz, just like we don't know whether we got value for Drew. We haven't frikkin' selected the players yet, or used the picks in a potential trade or whatever.
Thanks for pointing out we also got a first round pick. I want to make something clear and i dont care if its only been one game and I should give him a chance. Collier will be a bust mark my words. I've followed his career from Indiana, I've seen him play many times at georgia tech also and I was never impressed.He has no footspeed at all, and dont give me that back injury crap. He had no problem at the rocky mountain revue other than the fact that he sucked.I dont care if this guy can shoot well and demonstrate good foot speed in private workouts for the rockets that doesnt mean jack in the games. ------------------
I've seen Collier at GT quite a few times too, and he has a future in the NBA, mark MY words. A guy doesn't have footspeed in workouts and then not in games. Just give him a chance- he'll turn out better than almost all of you expect IMO. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com
M&M, I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one that noticed the Rockets, most notable Cato and Collier weren't boxing out. You can pretty much guarantee that will happen the next game versus Dallas and Najera will be called for going over the back. He only did it twice, but it wasn't called. Nor was there a call when he slammed the ball down on the court. Why hasn't anyone else mentioned that? Man, that's classic! Dude has definitely got to work on the D. All in all, it wasn't a bad showing. The Rockets played one lousy quarter and had some misques on defense. These things will be addressed and fixed. ------------------ Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and pimp-slap the mother****** upside the head!
I was gonna make a well thought out comment...full of logic and insight.....and now I read here that Najera has been ordained an All Star after one preseason game....why bother.... ------------------ GATER
