Oh man, if the Horns aren't ranked after this, there must be a conspiracy...

nevermind since you edited your post

 

But OU gets open shots because they're a better team.

They do everything Texas does, tough big men, good shooting, excellent defensive guards, smart point play - but they do it better. Everything Texas does - OU does better.

We have Thomas, Boddicker, Klotz and Erskin.

They have Brown, McGhee, Selvy.

Advantage OU.


We have Ford, Ivey and Mouton.

They have Price, White and Ere(who is a matchup nightmare).

Advantage OU.

They should get open shots, they're the better team.



As far as Barnes not doing a job, there is no emoticon to express my feelings - he took a team that plays only two upperclassmen(Erskin, Williams) regular minutes, and finishes third in the Big XII conference, an extremely tough conference. [Insert Massive Eye Rolling Here].

 

Yeah, I have to credit Barnes. I didn't like the hire at first, but he proved me wrong in that first year. He proved he knows how to coach defense by having the best defense in the Big 12 the last three years. Yeah, this team isn't so good defensively, but that may just be the quality and experience of the players -- that's where we miss Owens the most. He was the guy that destroyed layups and made up for other people's defensive mistakes. Offensively, I didn't like our game up until this year. Of course, it seems we alternate great and terrible games offensively right now.

I do find it interesting that we've gotten worse in each of Barnes' years in Big 12 play (13-3, 12-4, 12-4, 10-6). While he can get the one stud recruit (TJ, Boddicker(!!), etc), it seems that he did the most with Pender's players (Mihm, Chico, Clack, Moeneke, Darren Kelly, etc). As we've lost more Penders players, we've slowly gotten worse in the league. Of course, that could just be the league improving as well.

FWIW, I don't think we should be ranked at this point either because we've had some unfortunate losses (KSU, A&M), but I don't think we're necessarily any better or worse than the lower-ranked teams (20-25).

 

I'm going to disagree, I don't think they're a bad team, just really inconsistent. At times, they can play extremely poorly, but at other times, with the same players, they'll look like they could run with Duke.

Its a symptom of youth, in my opinion.

 

I fully agree. Next year, this team will contend for the Big XII Title . . .

The year after, watch out, barring an unexpected loss, this team is going to be badass.

 

I wish you would've made these comments at the outset, so I wouldn't have wasted 4 (now 5) responses to you in this thread.

 

He's being sarcastic. He's kind of a UT basher. Don't know why.


4 of UT's starters this year didn't start last year. Damn underachievers.

 

I'd just like to take this opportunity to say this: Yes, we are the #4 team in the country. Go OU I think Texas did look a little tired out there today. In my opinion, it seemed like they were trying to play hard, but just didn't have anything going today. Its no big deal though, that team will get a lot more chances as it seems they have a bright future ahead of them (you'd be suprised, a lot of people up here are cool with Texas as far as basketball goes. Its OSU we can't stand.).

I know most of you guys hate our guts anyway, but please wish us luck vs. Kansas tomorrow. Thaose bastards have to go down sometime.

 

As far as Texas goes this year, I don't think you can say they underachieved by any means. At the outset of this year, I was terrified about the loss of Mo Evans. I didn't see how we could put any points on the board. When Owens went out, I thought there was a good chance we were done. But to still be able to finish third in this conference to 2 of the top 5 teams in the nation? That is nothing to be ashamed of. For christ's sake, our only player getting key minutes that isn't an underclassman is fredie williams!

Personally, I see them as a 7 seed, and i think they might take their first game. They'll play the second game tough, but i just don't see it as too likely that they'll win. I wanna see matchups first, but that's my gut instinct. As far as the polls go? Polls are whack. They're relatively worthless, and just seeing certain teams in the poll for so long this year tells me how carelessly the voters treat them. I know that Texas is going to be much improved next year, as maturity and talent level increases. Just look at how much mouton and ivey have improved offensively from last year. And I think sydmill harris is a key role player on this team. Instant offense, can stretch the defense, etc.

About OU? It's funny, but i HATE other big 12 football teams in bowl games, but i cheer for the big 12 basketball teams in the tourney, for the most part. I do want to see KU flame out again, and i hate bobby knight, but otherwise, i usually pull for fellow conference teams. I think it's simple as to why OU has beaten us like 4414644386741374134134 straight times (or so it seems.) They KILL us from the 3 point line. I don't have stats to back it up, but from the box scores i've looked at, they always seem to shoot close to 50% from the 3 pt line, and they take LOTS of them. That just deflates a team. We almost always try doubling down, on mcghee for instance, and then they rotate the ball and any one of their players on the weak side hits the three. Frustrating as hell. And they don't shoot it as well against other teams. Guess it's just a rivalry thing, where you step up your game against teams you really want to beat for bragging rights. I think it has distored my view of how good they are, but i guess with their record and quality wins outside of conference, they have to be pretty darn solid.

 

I'm not saying they didn't put out an effort yesterday, but they played poorly. Even Barnes said he was hoping he would get thrown out so he didn't have to watch it.

Anyways, my point being they will play poorly again like they always do in the NCAA's no matter how good the team is. I have a feeling they will lose to a lower seeded team. Feel free to bring this back to the top after next weekend. Far from a top 25 team...far from.

99, 00, 01 and 02...

 

T.J. will lead them to the promised land for the next four years!

 

3 years.

 

The problem isn't Barnes cause UT has flamed out for many years - it doesn't matter whether we're overrated or underrated. The flame went out yesterday. Only a matter of a week before we get sent packing.

As much I hate to say it, the Red Raiders will go farther than UT.

Reality.

 

"As much I hate to say it, the Red Raiders will go farther than UT.

Reality."


Ummmm....no. Bobby Knight hasn't done jack in the tourney in who knows how long. And he hardly has the talent to do it now. Did you see how poorly they rebound, and how they struggle to score when a good defender is put on emmitt? I guess not....If Tech makes it past the first weekend, i will be utterly SHOCKED. I don't see Texas advancing much farther, but Texas easily has more potential in the tourney.