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Offseason 2008: What do the Rockets do?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. clutch citizen

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    Yeah...of course, this is assuming that he accepts the HUGE discount.

    Let's assume everything goes the rockets' way
     
  2. Asian Sensation

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    JAMAL CRAWFORD!


    With all the retooling that will be happening to the circus known as the Knickerbockers..... If there is any chance we could get Jamal Crawford without giving up too much it should be an option to consider. This guy was the lone bright star on the Knicks last year. The guys a player what else can you say? He shoots at a decent % from the field, can knock down the 3, and most importantly he is a natural born scorer you could say, finally a legit 3rd scorer who can create his own shot which we sorely lack and have been coveting for god knows how long. Add to the fact that he makes big time shots/ game winners and is clutch. I remember him having a couple game winning buckets against us. He's always been on losing teams ala (Jason Terry) when he was with the Hawks. I think a change of scenery to a winning team for Crawford would do wonders.

    I realize this may not be a popular choice and one could say they'd rather take a guard in the draft such as Chris Douglas-Roberts, Brandon Rush, Court Lee etc. I would too but our window is closing and I think a player like Douglas-Roberts will contribute right away but not enough to be a big factor for 2-3 years. 2-3 years is 1-2 too many.

    Thoughts?
     
  3. Tornadoofsoul6

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    If you can get Jamal Crawford without giving much, hell why not. He's even decent at the point. Only criticism I give Crawford is his shot selection when he's cold.
     
  4. BMoney

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    Stop being such a drama queen. It's called a salary cap. All of those tall, athletic and skilled players aren't exactly cheap, or easy to pick up. They have two max contract players and they had to gut the roster to acquire McGrady. Tell us what exactly should the Rockets have done over the last 5 years. Why wouldn't the Rockets build around the best center in the game and one of the top 5 wing players? Is trading either one of them more likely to produce playoff success? If so, what is your proposal? Les is a lot of things, but stupid, or cheap doesn't fit his description.
     
  5. leebigez

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    How come the lakers have kobe-20m, gasol-15m, Odom-10m, 2mle guy in radmonovich and fisher? We also see suns with 2max in amare and shaq with a 10m per yrs? denver has 3 max, and 2 10m per players.
     
  6. batkins

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    1) Trade Bobby Jackson, Luther Head, & the 2008 first round draft pick (+ Aaron Brooks if they force us to, just get Miller here someway) to the Memphis Grizzlies for Mike Miller.

    2) Sign Gerald Green for a non-guaranteed contract.

    3) Resign Dikembe Mutombo for the veteran minimum, one year.

    4) Resign Carl Landry with the LLE.

    5) Sign Bonzi Wells with the MLE.

    6) Waive Loren Woods.

    Houston: 2008-09 Depth Chart
    PG Rafer Alston / Steve Francis / Aaron Brooks/Luther Head*
    SG Tracy McGrady / Bonzi Wells / Gerald Green
    SF Shane Battier / Mike Miller / Steve Novak
    PF Luis Scola / Carl Landry / Mike Harris
    CF Yao Ming / Dikembe Mutombo / Chuck Hayes
     
  7. v3.0

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    Can someone tell me if this NBA salary info site is accurate? Seems to me it is, and at least more accurate then Hoopshype.

    http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/07-08salaries.htm

    The Rockets have alot of dead weight salaries they are still on the books for, each are not much but add them up and we could have afforded a nice MLE player with those salaries.

    Who's idea was it to sign Justin Reed for that many years?

    We need to move Bobby Jax's salary pronto. He's making more then Rafer. Try to package Head or Hayes with Jax. Although it's tough to package 2 perimeter guards together in a trade.

    We better see some results from Francis early in the season otherwise we need to look into moving his expiring contract also.

    Aaron Brooks must make that leap forward to where Adelman can rely on him and put him into the regular rotation. Ideal would be that he becomes backup pg.

    Forget Gerald Green. He's exactly the type of player we shouldn't sign, unproven players with "potential" that will tie up more salary while it dawns on us that he'll never amount to anything. Actually, I officially see Green as a journeyman, he's bounced around enough, and signing journeyman players is not a priority. He's had enough time to prove himself, I'd rather give a draft pick the roster spot.
     
  8. jondoe

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    All this talk of signing folks has got me to thinking.

    What do we really need? A reliable PG, or a reliable 3rd scorer?

    Hypothetically speaking, of course, who would you guys rather have, Calderon or Artest?

    They're both great assets, but which of the two would benefit the Rockets more so?

    I'd say the latter.
     
  10. hooroo

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    teams need the assets to trade up in the first place.

    shaq got the lakers odom and caron, caron turned into kwame, then into gasol.

    suns drafted marion who later on with banks combined made slightly more money than shaq who they were traded for.

    the rockets gutted their team when they traded for t-mac. no one wanted jho until minny gave mike james a bad contract. lue was worth the lesser barry who was unhappy about being glued on the hawks bench. they spent their MLEs but the lack of first round picks probably hurt the rockets the most.
     
  11. hooroo

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    /\ Also EG getting waived was a major part of why the Rockets lacked trade assets.
     
  12. saleem

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    By the time he got waived his trading value was low. The Wolves picked him up for cheap because they were desperate.
     
  13. hooroo

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    the rockets gave up a lot of their future for him. when he was no longer part of their future. all that was left was nothing.
     
  14. hooroo

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    not even an expiring contract.
     
  15. saleem

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    I understand your point now. That's true,they could have gotten Rashard Lewis for him and of course the 3 for 1 trade with RJ being the main principal.
     
  16. RocketsBoy23

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    how about we try to get richard jefferson
     
  17. saleem

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    What can we give them in return? They will ask for too much. Scola,Landry plus the 25th pick at the least as a starting point. It's not worth gutting out the team to get him.
     
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    that would be a great team, but miller off the bench?
     
  19. beatpole

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    i would jump out of the window, tmac and vc? +yao do you know what that means
    every team can give up, tmac and vc would play cousinball and destroy everybody
     
  20. hooroo

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    IF the Rockets stick with Rafer next season
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    IF the rumours that Portland are keen on Battier

    Let's say Rockets get to their hands on Rudy Fernandez and Travis Outlaw...

    Does anyone like the idea of a massive gamble on trading for Speedy Claxton? He's basically Aaron Brooks except with PG skills instead of the 3pt shooting. Brooks is a 3rd option player while Claxton a genuine option as a starter when healthy if he can stay healthy.

    Jackson+Brooks for Claxton = c. -$1.37M

    Hawks have no draft picks this year so they do this deal to even things up a little.

    Francis for Law = c. -$552K

    Rockets save $1.93M
     

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