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Offseason 2008: What do the Rockets do?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

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    i think we should keep both of our stars for one more year. they did go on a huge winning streak before yao went down.

    we need yao when we go against the big teams like you said. but i think adelman would be flexible enough b/c he does have the big men to play yao 25-28 mins if we play against a team like utah right now.

    we're doing a good job on boozer (not b/c he's shooting bad), but he can't get shots off on our big men right now. i think yao would just play 25 minutes right now even if he was healthy.
     
  2. LegendZ3

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    I still think we need more consistent shooters on this team. Mike Miller seems like the right choice. Use Bobby's contract to get Miller should be our biggest move this off-season. And I wouldn't go out and pursue any point guards yet. Let's see how Francis does when he comes back next year. If he can be 80% of what he used to be, then I think SF, Rafer, and Brooks is good enough rotation at the 1.
     
  3. leebigez

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    Nevermind a guy like miller who is a playoff scrub, get Artest. If u have to give up shane, that cool cuz posey,evans, and pietrus can backup artest and tracy.
     
  4. The Rock MVP

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    i agree the pg situation is just fine...we need to upgrade our bench just a little bit

    With Bjax expiring + Luther Head = trade for Mike Miller

    Resign Mutumbo for one year

    With 25th pic overall...select CDR or Brandon Rush

    Trade Steve Novak and this years second rounder to Portland for Draft rights to Kevin Love(third string PF and backup C)

    Use 85% of MLE on Micheal Peitrus and rest on Gerald Green


    PG: alston/francis/brooks
    sg: tmac/CDR or Rush/Green
    sf: battier/Mike Miller/Peitrus
    pf: scola/Landry/Hayes
    c: yao/mutumbo/Love
     
  5. mogrod

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    Throwing out a ratical idea. In chronilogical order.

    1st: Draft
    26th pick - Robin Lopez
    Gives them another legit 7 ft. big man who can play both front court positions.


    2nd: Sign & Trade for Artest

    Scola + Battier + Head for Artest + Future 1st


    3nd: Free Agency
    Re-sign Carl Landry
    Sign Kelenna Azuibuike
    Talk Deke into coming back


    Alston/Jackson/Brooks/Francis
    McGrady/Jackson/Azuibuike
    Artest/Azuibuike/Harris
    Landry/Artest/Hayes/Novak
    Yao/Deke/Lopez
     
  6. hooroo

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    That's potentially 4 starters who can't stay healthy.
     
  7. tiger0330

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    Not sure about trading Rafer despite what most of this board thinks. He comes back in game 3 and the Rox win in one of the toughest arenas in the league says something about his value to this team. His contributions in the 22 game win streak, team defensive play, obvious chemistry and court leadership make me not want to trade him. Definitely don't feel major changes need to be made.

    Definitely need a backup big if Deke doesn't come back, Wood is not going to cut it. I would also like to move Head for a more athletic SG like JR Smith, Matt Barnes or Azubuike. Hopefully SF comes back and contibutes next year, I am hoping it was his injury that held him back this year and that he is fired up for his contract year.

    I like this group of guys and hopefully Yao and Tmac can put together an injury free year in 2009.
     
  8. The Rock MVP

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    can anyone critique my proposed offseason plan. ABout 3 posts up. im curious as to what you guys think
     
  9. jump shooter

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    Has Portland already drafted Kevin Love? And Novak and this years 2nd round pick will not remotely come close to getting you a 1st round pick.
     
  10. saleem

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    I don't think Bobby Jackson plus Luthur Head will be enough to get Mike Miller.
    If CDR or Rush are available at 25,either one of them will be very good choices.I feel both of them might be gone by then though.Rush might slip if they are concerns about injuries.

    Using most of the MLE on Peitrus and the rest on Gerald Green is a good idea
    Getting a third Center/PF is important. Trading Novak plus a future 2nd rounder(I'm not sure if we have one this year) for one of Portland's 2nd rounders is the right thing to do,but i'm not sold on Kevin Love because we need height,length,quickness,defense,rebounding.
    Resigning Deke is fine with me.
     
  11. batkins

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    Does anyone think we could get Bonzi Wells with the MLE?
     
  12. The Rock MVP

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    Kevin Love is suppose to be drafted from 10-20. Portland has 13th pick and has 4 solid big man rotation with Oden, Aldridge, Pryzbila, and Frye. They need a shooter that roy can dish to after penetration.

    But i see your point. Here is my editted version.

    With Bjax expiring + Luther Head = trade for Mike Miller

    Resign Mutumbo for one year

    With 25th pic overall...select CDR or Brandon Rush

    Trade Steve Novak and this years second rounder to Portland for Draft rights to Kevin Love(third string PF and backup C)

    If portland doesn't draft him and pending another team drafts him and keeps him. Keep Novak and draft Sasha Kaun with second rounder. Assign Kaun to the D-League

    Use 85% of MLE on Micheal Peitrus and rest on Gerald Green


    PG: alston/francis/brooks
    sg: tmac/CDR or Rush/Green
    sf: battier/Mike Miller/Peitrus
    pf: scola/Landry/Hayes
    c: yao/mutumbo/Love

    edited roster:

    PG: alston/francis/brooks
    sg: tmac/CDR or Rush/Green
    sf: battier/Mike Miller/Peitrus
    pf: scola/Landry/Novak
    c: yao/mutumbo/Hayes

    We can call up Kaun when Yao goes down.
     
  13. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    I think you actually found a way to add Artest in which doesn't improve our team. I'm impressed.

    Maybe I think too highly of Scola, but I think he's one of three people on this team that are untouchable. The others are obviously Yao and McGrady, and McGrady is really only untouchable because getting equal value for him would be impossible. When you consider what Scola contributes and how small his contract is, trading him is just insane. I'd even rather trade Landry because as much as I love him, his knee scares the hell out of me.

    My question is this: If the Kings are in rebuild mode - and they should be - could we get Artest for expirings + Brooks + a draft pick or two?

    Regardless, I wouldn't give up two starters and all-universe locker room guys for Ron Artest - and I want Artest.
     
  14. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    1. Why would Memphis do that? They're already loaded with undersized shooters. They have absolutely no need for Luther or Bobby Jackson and despite the expiring contracts, there is no added incentive for them to pull the trigger on that deal. The entire reason they didn't trade Miller before the deadline was because they were trying to get teams to take on Brian Cardinal in the deal. They're not giving Miller away just to give him away.

    2. Steve Novak and a 2nd rounder will not get us Kevin Love. Steve Novak and a 2nd rounder might not even get us a high 2nd rounder. And for that matter, do we even have a 2nd round pick this draft? I'm thinking we don't.
     
  15. mister pc

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    biggest needs: shooting guard, small forward
     
  16. The Rock MVP

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    1. Memphis would do this trade because as of now unless some team is going to send some monster expiring contract Memphis' way, Bobby Jackson is the biggest one at this point. As for Luther Head...have you seen their backup SG/PG positions. As of now Luther would instantly be the second best backup for that team behind Jaun Carlos Navarro and even that is a maybe. I would not take Kyle Lowry over Luther Head. Casey jacobson < luther head. Crittenton < Luther Head. Hell Mike Conley has been a disappointment this year too. Memphis is obviously rebuilding around Rudy Gay. Mike Miller is taking shots and alot of offensive sets away from him. PLUS Bobby jackson can provide some veteran PG help for conley. Veteran leadership on that team is slim to none.

    2. Assuming Portland drafts Kevin Love. They have ZERO need for him and would only draft him because he is the BPA and remember that they don't need a SG, PF, C. Why not trade him away for a guy who is known to shoot when that team is filled with slashers and hustlers, but no shooters. I can't name one guy on that squad that I would call a consistent shooter.
    To them...they are getting a shooter plus a second rounder(maybe change to 2009 first rounder to sweeten it) for a guy they don't need
     
  17. hooroo

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    A lottery pick for Novak, the 54th pick, and a most likely a late 2009 1st rounder just isn't going to happen.
     
  18. Tom Bombadillo

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    Get Peja and Okur............
     
  19. mogrod

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    LOL! Despite what most of this board thinks and often proposes, you have to GIVE to GET. If the Kings are looking to sign and trade Artest, they're not going to just give him away.

    Plus, I don't care what anyone says, I don't believe for once that the Kings are going to rebuild this offseason. They haven't gone into "rebuild" mode in years, even after the decline of the Webber/Bibby era. They are known to tweak and I've not seen one thing from the front office in Sacremento that makes me believe they are doing anything but that this offseason. If anything, they will tweak, take one step backwards to take two to three steps forward.

    Secondly, I LOVE Scola. He has done an unbelievable job in his rookie season, is my pick for rookie of the year, and has really helped the Rockets especially once he was inserted into the starting lineup. Saying all of that, he has hit his ceiling IMO. Sure, he may get better at knocking down a few more mid-range shots and/or finishing around the basket but, unlike most stand out rookies, he's not going to get significantly better.

    Landry on the other hand gives you everything Scola gives you except he is better at them, gives you other aspects Scola will not and is much younger showing real potential to even get better. Landry is a better shooter, better FT shooter, better finisher, still gives you all the hustle and rebounding but also brings a quickness and athleticism that Scola does not. Really, the only thing Scola has over him is experience playing years at a level above college.

    Scola, as good as he has been, is much more expendable with the potential Landry has shown, especially if you can go out and get an all-star player that gives you that much more on both ends of the court. Not to mention that Artest will cover up what you lose from Scola by playing minutes at the 4.

    So, exactly how does this make the team worse? They still have a defensive stallworth and add a MUCH NEEDED player on offensive that can create and make their own shot and can take over a game if TMac and/or Yao are off or injured. It sucks losing Battier and Scola, but ON THE COURT you really don't lose out defensively but gain so more on offense.

    All that said, I said it was a RADICAL idea and I certainly would not complain if Scola lines up as the starter next season.


    So, please Mr. Expert., you're so quick to put down other's ideas, please tell us your brilliant ideas to make this team better.
     
  20. The Rock MVP

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    Well my purpose for a offseason plan was to satisfy as many people as i could so he is try #2

    With Bjax expiring + Luther Head + this years second rounder = trade for Mike Miller

    Resign Mutumbo for one year

    With 25th pic overall...select CDR or Brandon Rush

    Trade Steve Novak + next years first rounder(lottery protected) to Orlando
    Pending they draft Roy Hibbert. If they don't get to draft him then we keep novak and the first rounder.

    Use 85% of MLE on Micheal Peitrus and rest on Gerald Green


    PG: alston/francis/brooks
    sg: tmac/CDR or Rush/Green
    sf: battier/Mike Miller/Peitrus
    pf: scola/Landry/Hayes
    c: yao/mutumbo/Hibbert

    If we can't get hibbert

    PG: alston/francis/brooks
    sg: tmac/CDR or Rush/Green
    sf: battier/Mike Miller/Peitrus
    pf: scola/Landry/Novak
    c: yao/mutumbo/Hayes


    Sigh...ok lol any critiques
     

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