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Officially off the Budinger Bandwagon

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tonybrooksadj, Dec 27, 2010.

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  1. CXbby

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    LOL, is this the new schtick? That Lowry has to come of the bench to break Chase out of his wittle funk?

    You got it backwards pal. Chase is not NEARLY good enough for the team to adjust and conform to HIM. HE needs to adjust to the team. And if he can't adjust, or if he can't break out of his little self esteem crisis, then his ass will be nailed to the bench.
     
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  2. DCHAMP

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    He is missing wide open shots.....people go through slumps for a couple of games heck months...but not an entire season...his decision making is horrid...and its not nearly as ugly as his shot....it ticks me off when i see him enter the game ..send him to the d-league and maybe he will improve again and play t-will :rolleyes:
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    I think there are officially too many players on our bench now. Too many not getting minutes who should for some reason or another. Some who get it but recieve the time for veteran playing sake and not ability or potential. This means we are officially overloaded at some positions and need to trade a few people away to clear up minutes for players and upgrade the team at the same time. Rick has figured out his rotation. Now Morey has to consolidate those who arent playing or arent playing well into one or two fewer players who are better and get into the rotation. Prefferably a couple of our guys for one real good player. Its not only good for team chemistry now? Its good for minutes for our youngsters who should get some and good for allowing others to get some minutes elsewhere if they arent getting used here. Keeps conflict over minutes from arising. Also getting us better in the process. Its overdue for a trade now. We are waisting few people at a few positions now.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Fine by me, if the Rockets decide to sit him and it works out great, but right now they are winning.....and you NEVER screw with a winning streak.

    And I am ignoring the personal insults or baits CX....no need for it in the GARM.

    DD
     
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    Maybe we can win games starting from the second quarter if he wasnt playing anymore.

    He has been GARBAGE lately and he needs to be sat until he figures out his problems.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    We are winning, you don't screw with a streak....and you can't blame the bench struggles on one guy, there are 5 of them out there......

    Not saying Chase has been doing well, he has been up and down all year, mostly down...but the entire 2nd unit doesn't fit....

    Maybe TWill running in Chase's place with CLee will work....who knows....but he may get his chance once he gets some practice.

    If Twill takes his minutes, I would like to see CBud sent to the DLeague to work it out.

    DD
     
  7. JeopardE

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    Sophomore slump (not exactly helped by the DD curse).

    He'll be fine, eventually. But he may have to start riding the pine if he isn't breaking out of his slump by the break.
     
  8. spdngyns69

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    lets not pretend that cbud is not playing well because of certain reasons. Nothing and no one is going to help this guy's game at this point. He's embarassing! Every team Rockets play against, they take turns punking his azz. Being soft, missing open shots, taking bad shots is one thing, but getting burned by everyone is just embarrasing. He needs to stop taking that shot running off the screen, he never makes it. He is the biggest defensive liablilty on this team. Yes, even more than ab and kmart. His lateral speed is terrible, and he needs to realize that its ok to dish out to someone other than Jordan Hill. Gosh this guy sucks donkey balls. Watching him play makes me miss Ryan Bowen, he's that bad.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Thank God Rick Adelman didn't abandon Kyle Lowry when he sucked earlier this year, right?

    Come on...sometimes, players slump....and if he doesn't get out of it, he will sit....

    The lack of patience on this board by some of you, I can only hazard to guess that most of you are fairly young....is astonishing.

    Sometimes you have to work out of your slumps....and as long as the team is winning....well.....

    DD
     
  10. spdngyns69

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    ...And there is always room for improvement, even when you're winning. Cbud is not our only option that we are stuck with. On a side note, it's great being young. :) not looking foward to getting on your level
     
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    The problem is, even if he gets out of his shooting slump, I can't see his defense improving. I hope I'm wrong, but his ceiling to me is a below average non-starter in the league. Still a good pick up for where he was picked, but he shouldn't be fed minutes if his play doesn't warrant it.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Fair enough...getting old sucks....but there is some upside to it....

    ;)

    He earned those minutes with his play over 82 games last year....if he continues to struggle he will be replaced, already his leash is shorter.....

    DD
     
  13. davestrate

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    trade him in a package or for a future second round pick, he's a perfect waste of roster space right now.
     
  14. TheRealist137

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    Budinger is a disaster out there and has been all season.

    Dude has no desire to play, only reason he's not a professional volleyball player right now is because basketball pays a lot more.
     
  15. CXbby

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    We are winning DESPITE him, not because of him. A blind man would be able to recognize this because even a blind man can hear the gleeful screams of joy as opponents line up to go to work on the him when he is on defense.

    In which case, we can make a special exception and yes, lets "screw" with winning, since he isn't contributing to it anyways.

    I mean for christs sake Jawad Williams was cut by the Cavs and if only he had played against the Rockets a few more times and had Budinger matched up against him a NBA career could have been saved.
     
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    Thing is, Kyle Lowry sucked for about 4-5 games.

    Bud sucked for 30 GAMES.

    That is over 1/4 of the season and this guy still couldn't find his shot.

    I don't know what kind of slump you have to be to miss wide open shots for over 1/4 quarter of the season. And if his confidence is this fragile, he has no use in the playoffs whatsoever.

    Bud is killing his value right now, and he isn't someone you can rely on when the game counts. I don't care if he has the skills of Reggie Miller and Ray Allen, if his confidence is more fragile than an egg shell then he isn't worth a dime when the game is close or when we're in playoff atmosphere.

    Sad thing is I really liked Bud. He seemed like a sure steal last season, but right now he looks more like a complacent second rounder who is waiting to leave this league.
     
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    Adelman seems to be very patient with the players that earned his trust. I guess sometimes, it just frustrates the heck out of people including myself seeing bud still get pt. I know you were/are very high on him but if you can see it like it is, kudos. His shot may come back but it's his defense is what scares me, Holy smokes
     
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    DD, I commend you for sticking with your guy. I, too, like Chase Budinger as a basketball player and am not ready to give up on him as a Rocket. But (as you admit) he may be ready for a demotion.

    I do, however, have a hard time agreeing with your point about not wanting to replace Bud because the team is winning:

    Tonight vs. WAS: (-5)
    12/22 vs. LAC: (-9)
    12/20 vs. GSW: (-5)
    12/19 vs. SAC: (+1)
    12/17 vs. MEM: (-10)

    Please explain to me how Chase has done anything to help this team win during the past 5 games, other than to give Shane Battier a few minutes to catch his breath in the second quarter and then in the late third and early fourth quarters. Sure, +/- doesn't tell the whole story, but anecdotal evidence suggests that Chase is a sieve on defense.

    Chase officially lost me as a supporter of him continuing to be a member of this rotation on a particular play during a crucial stretch in the fourth quarter when the Wizards were trying to hold off the Rockets' late-game surge. After Battier hit the go-ahead 3 to make it 87-86, the Wizards ran a pick-and-roll against Chase and Jordan Hill (a particularly ineffective defensive pick-and-roll combination). When Jordan went back to cover his man, Chase stood BY HIMSELF up at the free throw line extended, STARING at Nick Young as he got the ball back. Rather than close out on his man, Chase simply gave up on the play. He watched as Nick took an extra second to square himself up and shoot a WIDE OPEN 20-footer to retake the lead for Washington, 88-87. I swear, my entire Section turned around and looked at me, I was yelling so loud at him in anger.

    Again, DD, I like Chase. I want him to succeed, and I think that he will. Eventually. But as long as Terrence Williams plays well enough in practice and picks up enough of the system to be passable in limited minutes, I'd greatly prefer to see Terrence getting some minutes in lieu of Chase. I'd also like to see a bit more of the 3-guard lineup we saw late in the game with Lowry, Brooks and Martin, although that lineup will only work against teams that go small themselves (the Wizards did us a favor when they did that).

    I agree with you that a stint in the D-League might do Chase some good. But most likely Rick will want to keep him around. If Terrence plays like crap and/or one of the wings gets injured, Adelman will want to have Chase on that bench. That was the same reason why Jermaine Taylor couldn't stay in the D-League for more than a couple of games before Adelman asked to have him back on the Rockets' roster. Just in case.
     
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    ^^ If Budinger is struggling, I'd like to see more of Courtney Lee in his place.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Wait Bima....

    You agree with me, then you quote the horribly simplistic +/- statistic as some measure of proof?

    Come on, you are better than that....

    The entire SECOND unit has stunk, it is a chemistry nightmare, it is built to run, run, run with Lowry.

    And right now, Lowry is playing great as a starter, so, no need to change that.....but it screws the entire 2nd unit.

    Just to show you how stupid I think the plus/minus stat is...Jordan Hill was magnificent tonight and had a minus 10.

    Yeah...there ya go.....

    Now come on...Cbud is struggling and if Rick demotes him when Twill learns the system...fine by me.....I am all about the Rox.

    But please do not blame the entire 2nd units failure on one guy...even if he is struggling.....admittadly.

    That is seriously messed up.

    And yes, Chase struggled on D on some possessions, but did you see the block that led to the important fast break?

    I mean, we can all pick and choose one play to make a point...right?

    ;)

    DD
     

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