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[Official] Twins @ Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. KeuchelForPresident

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    Musgrove is reasonably dependable for 60 pitches. Beyond that, is flirting with disaster. Having said that, if the offense is going to choke all evening, there's little the pitching staff can do.
     
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  2. Houstunna

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    What do mean "you people"?

    Ten baserunners in 5+ innings. Mussy was bad. Or blame Hinch for allowing him to pitch beyond the leadoff baserunner in the 6th.
     
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  3. Alimoe84

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    Musgrove wasn't bad. We left the bases loaded 3 times with nothing to show for it. The inability for anyone to go past the 6th inning is more than a concern.

    I say we start a pot and bet on which starting pitcher will get into the 7th first. Every day it doesn't happen, add $1. Who's down!?
     
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  4. Buck Turgidson

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    This, this, and this again.
     
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  5. roxallways

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    Musgrove isn't THE reason they loss tonight but I'm just tired of seeing him go out there sucking. You have to expect the offense to score a lot of runs when he pitches and the offense just couldn't get key hits tonight. When he pitches it's almost like it's a likely loss.
     
  6. Houstunna

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    So you're saying, "since the offense was bad, Musgrove wasn't bad?"

    Those 2 factors are separate situations.

    - Ten baserunners in 5+ innings
    - 7.20 ERA tonight

    Like I said the first time..... BOTH the offense and Mussy were bad tonight.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    It's almost like when your #5 pitcher's out there, you might want to score more than 3 runs when you have multiple chances to do so.
     
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  8. conquistador#11

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    I'm not liking what I'm not seeing and hearing from the "AT&T" broadcast. Ain't nobody wanna see no Bart. Must be the dumbest m'fers ever. They should be f'ing ashahmemed! that's all I say about that red head topic.

    As for the game, we had so many missed connections they could fill a craiglist page. eventually they were going to break the losing streak against us. Get healthy harris. Martes was blasting batters.
     
  9. PhiSlammaJamma

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    To resume or resume', that is the french question. But that answer is always the same, surrender.
     
  10. roxallways

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    The offense didn't do their job tonight but Musgrove has sucked all year for the most part. He needs to be in Fresno. Sucks that he's still starting due to injury.
     
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  11. Houstunna

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    It's almost like when your #5 has a 7.20 ERA, it's acceptable.
     
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  12. Buck Turgidson

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    No ****, and there are no better options right now.

    Don't leave the bases loaded 3 times. I don't care who's pitching.
     
  13. roxallways

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    I agree the offense didn't do their job but can't expect the offense to score 10 plus every night. Pitching every once in a while should be expected to pick up the offense from time to time. Musgrove has had a couple of starts where he has good games and the rest of the time it's been bad. He just can't be counted on.
     
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  14. Houstunna

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    The bats can't score 10 runs every game.

    There have been wins this season while having 10+ LOB.
     
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    Thus far, Mussy can't even be counted on to be a #5.

    *wow, we both said 10 runs/gm
     
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  16. Buck Turgidson

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    Ok, uh, somehow it's gone from "score runs when you have the chance" to "score 10 runs a game". I never said the latter. And I never said anything about Musgrove, other than him being the only #5 we have right now.
     
  17. Spacemoth

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    Here's the excuse I'll make for Musgrove four or five of his last few outings. There really isn't much difference between him and Morton, when you account for the fact that Morton is oftentimes pitching with a >4 run lead by the third inning and Musgrove is often in a 2-1 low scoring encounter.

    Dunno what it is, but Musgrove time and time again is getting the short end of the stick when it comes to our bats backing him up. And when you don't have the lead early, the pressure to keep putting zeros up may get to a young pitcher. I'm not saying it's acceptable if he wants to eventually be a MOR kind of pitcher; I'm just saying let's stop giving Morton the opposite slack for basically having zero leverage innings a third of the way through his outings every time.
     
  18. Houstunna

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    The problem is, you never said tonight's Musgrove was bad.

    You mentioned "offense" after someone already mentioned it.

    Neither Musgrove nor the offense were good tonight.
     
  19. Smacktle

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    Some of you guys expect our players to be perfect it seems like all the time. Musgrove did ok tonight and he's all we got. Get over it!

    I think some of you enjoy bashing our team more than you revel in the positive winning vibe we have right now. Bunch of negative Nancys we have around here.
     
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  20. Buck Turgidson

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    Look at Peacock's numbers after he goes through the lineup once, they're not pretty. That's why I want him back in the pen once we have at least 2 reliable starters again. There's just no good options right now.

    "choke" is a **** word to use. If Bregman's line drive doesn't get caught it's a totally different ballgame. Them's the breaks.
     

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