I'm just dandy with the platoon we have now... as long as Chris Brown isn't running that damn much. However, we need some serious guard help. Losing Chester still stings. We can't run between the Ts to save our lives and it is a total drive killer.
These calls to give Brown over 10 carries makes me LOL. Obviously you want to give Brown more touches than Andre.
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No Major, that is NOT what I'm saying. What I'm pointing out is the amount of time it will take to move from the ZBS to another system if Kubiak gets bounced. Unless the new coach is Mike Shanahan, he will most likely have to get OL and RBs to fit his system and that will take TIME. Now I'm asking you this: if you've run out of patience with the Texans after 8 years - 4 of them with Kubiak, just how are you going to feel after waiting another 2-3 years for results? My point is that folks who think that a new coach can come in here and turn things around immediately are setting themselves up for a huge letdown.
I disagree. From where I sit, they will undoubtedly bring in a new coach with a different coaching philosophy. This means a difference in systems and hence players. The new coach will have to get players to fit his systems and that will take time. I'm speculating this period to last 2 years minimum but most likely 3 years. And I'm not just talking offense as there are some pretty serious holes to plug on the defensive side as well. The only way I see a new coach not needing time would be for said coach to come in and without making any major changes, somehow manage to do a better job executing the things that Kubiak has tried to do but failed. To me, that's somewhat of a longshot at best. Also, I'm not at all confident that McNair will get this one right and should he muff this coaching choice, well you know where that will lead.
And I'm suggesting all the history of all the coaching changes in the NFL says the exact opposite. The goal isn't to "turn things around". Its to build on and improve what's already there. Again - can you name a single coach that intentionally backtracked an 8-8 type team for several years in order to remold it into a different philosophy? If not, please stop saying that's the only way it could happen. We see coaches come and build on what other coaches did every single year. To act like the Texans are so unique that is impossible is total nonsense.
They did fine in his first year (even made the playoffs for the first time several years). Their biggest problem was losing Trent Green due to concussions, which led them down a path to their current mess. They actually did OK with Huard, but then totally came apart with Croyle. That wasn't Herm Edwards purposely scraping what worked to install something totally different. I'm not saying a new coach is a cure-all, and I actually think Kubiak is fine. What I'm saying is that you can replace a coach and continue improveing. There's no reason that a team has to step backwards anytime you get a new coach with a new philosophy, as Hillboy is suggesting. Every year, teams change coaches and build forward. The idea that these Hall of Fame coaches would be incapable of taking the Texans and improving them - and that only Kubiak or Shanahan could do well with this team - is laughable to me.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner. Over and over the Texan's performances point to this issue in regards to play selection, player selection, time management, game management, and the intangibles (coaching). Coaching is not a head coach issue alone, it is a staff issue. I see good talent, I see overrated talent, and I see the lack of talent. It isn't all coaching, but utilization of available resources is all coaching. The Texans are at the "hump" and can't get over it. This team needs a new attitude, a new demeanor, a new coaching staff and a player house cleaning. Keep the winners, lose the losers.
false. their biggest problem was hiring that dunce coach and letting him implement his run run pass punt offense.
I'm still f'n pissed...I was pretty much the only one cheering for the Texans at a bar last night...We just can't close...is it Brown's fault, partly, but honestly, the offense/defense should have done a better job to have it not come to that... VY is pretty special, and has improved, but its a combination of breakdown in defense that couldn't account for his legs and the play selection for the offense...
Major, I think that you are deliberately being obtuse here. This issue is not one of regression but of TIME - that it will take time for a new coach to get the players and staff in place to make that push for the playoffs. I think that you want to lay all blame on Kubiak when in reality, there is plenty of blame to go around. I agree that Kubiak's coaching philosophy coupled with his refusal to modify said philosophy is a huge problem but replacing him with another head coach won't be the magic wand for which you are hoping. If this was a hugely talented team that was somehow being held back by Kubiak, then your argument would have some merit. But it's not - it is what it is a mediocre team with a mediocre record and I fail to see how simply changing head coaches will suddenly cancel out all of its weaknesses. Your argument that a new head coach & coaching staff can come right in here and immediately improve the fortunes of this team as it is currently contructed is misleading and naive. Any new coach is going to make changes in staff and personnel and that simply won't happen overnight nor will it happen in one season. In other words, it will take some time. Now I ask you again: how much time are you willing to give that next coach? A year? Two? And if said coach hasn't produced the results you want in 2 years, what then? Repeat the process? You have to be careful here because once you start playing "musical head coaches", it tends to take on a life of its own. Just ask Jerry Jones.
Do you think Kubiak's Coaching Cost you points per game? I looked at RHester's analysis Kubes cost the Texans 4 points [1st and goal at the 8] Poor Play calling or just poor Player play? If you Coaching is costing you 4 points a game . . sounds like that cost you 2~4 games this year Which means. . . it is Coaching Rocket River
great point, Hillboy. i think kubiak can and will get it done (though it may not happen here) and to me - that's the danger in firing him when the team is so obviously on the cusp: if you take where the texans were in 2005 and where they are now, kubiak has unquestionably done far more good than bad - he's obviously competent. are you going to let another team benefit from kubiak finally putting it altogether or will you be patient and trust he can take the next step? i mean, look at the list of potential replacements: shanahan, gruden, dungy - all guys that failed somewhere before winning a SB. i'm not in the camp of "they should be 9-1!!" BUT... you can't outright dismiss that the team is 4 plays away from this being a radically different season. is kubiak the difference? or are they simply unlucky? sometimes luck can run in waves. its that remarkably simple. look at the '06 titans - the year of baby vince. that team rolled on a series of fortunate events - they hit game-winning 60+yard FGs, watched a giant team cough up a huge 4Q lead, won a coin toss here in houston in OT.... i hear people talk about winning plays, and leadership, and pep talks... what if 2009 was just one of those years? i mean, how likely is that ll 4 last-play fails would involve a guy named ch/kris brown? barring a total meltdown, i think he deserves one more year.
specious reasoning at best; let's not forget he created theoffense that's scoring 23.2/game. that's more than the 7-3 bengals, 6-4 steelers, 6-4 jaguars, 6-4 broncos and 7-3 cowboys, btw. i'll take 23 at the expense of an iffy 4.
Kubiak is a work in progress...as is the rest of the team. We've been unlucky this season...our record could very easily be 7-3 and we wouldnt even be discussing a new head coach. I think Kubes is learning and I actually feel like he has done a better job since the beginning of the season. I dont think Im quite ready to give up on him...If he keeps improving and we catch some lucky breaks, this team will be fine.
My problem is that he keeps making the same bad decisions every season. The execution at the end of the first half last night is a prime example. It just seems like we can't get over the hump with him. Win the next 5 out of 6 and his job is safe. I've stated that 9 wins is underachieving. Yes we're young but we're talented. We miss OD in the worst way but injuries are a part of the game. It just seems difficult to pass on Cowher if we don't win 10 games this season.
That's the issue for me. If Bill Cowher comes knocking on your door, interested in a head coaching job, you better have a pretty compelling reason to tell him, "we're not hiring." I'm not convinced the Texans have that kind of a compelling reason. That doesn't mean that Kubiak isn't doing a good job. It also doesn't mean that you're making change for sake of change.
Seconded. Ric, in general I agree with your entire point. A couple devil's advocate things that crossed my mind as I read: Widest. Cusp. Ever. Did they fail somewhere or were they not given enough time somewhere? Maybe a split hair, or maybe dungy was never going to get TB off the "cusp"? This entire decade has been "one of those years." Sooo ready for one of those OTHER kind of years. You know, the kind where we have a good football team. Not to say it's Kubiak's fault. Just another year, another mediocre Houston football team. I agree: but this is beginning to become an annual mantra.
