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[Official] Titans @ Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. BucMan55

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    During the Titans final drive, I guarantee you their plan was to get into FG range and run the clock down as far as possible before having to kick it. Thing is, they got a little greedy with the 4th down. It was a poor decision. You kick and play D. Its not like a 42-38 score with both offenses having field days on the other's D and literally the last team with the ball is going to win.
     
  2. RunninRaven

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    I know everyone is discussing the 4th and 3 play, but I actually just as surprised by that call as I was the previous 3rd and about 1 foot call. When you have less than a yard, especially with a big, good offensive line, doing a QB sneak will get you that 1-2 feet about 99% (or so it seems to me). Now sure, Lendale White is a big mofo and they still should have been able to get that foot, but when you do a full on handoff like that, you are moving the ball 3-4 yards backwards before you start moving it forward again. There's always the chance, like today, that a player can shoot a gap and totally disrupt any momentum the RB has. Had they let Collins keep that ball on 3rd down, this might have been a different result.

    Either way, awesome win. Andre and Slaton are TOPS. And this game proves to me that Schaub is good enough for this team to win it all. He had a couple plays that left a little to be desired, but overall he managed the game well. Didn't take too many chances, made the throws he really needed to make, and withstood some crushing hits throughout the day and kept getting back up and marching on. I was proud of the guy.
     
  3. BucMan55

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    Fisher wishes he could challenge the spot on the 2nd down play. Looked like the guy was over the line, but maybe his knee was down earlier than I thought.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    I said it already, but apparently it bears repeating since everyone thinks Fisher was just gambling... but Bironas, in warm ups, was not able to hit 45+ yarders with any consistency due to the roof being open and the south wind... so Jeff never intended to kick from that far.. for what its worth.. he's not dumb

    quote from Fisher...

    ""I told the players I'll take this one. I should have taken the wind in the fourth and not the third and that's exactly why I decided not to let Rob kick. It was not within his range. I knew exactly what his range was and I just felt that we would get things going into the fourth quarter that it wouldn't be a factor. So that's why we went for it on fourth down. It was not a good coaching decision."
     
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  5. arkoe

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    Bulluck seems like a fun guy.

    * On 23 carries, Texans rookie running back Steve Slaton had 76 yards. The Titans had no real problem with that. On his 24th carry, he got to 100.

    "There have been two backs to go 100 yards on them all year," Winston said. "His name's Steve Slaton."

    While Finnegan and defensive tackle Tony Brown were complimentary of Slaton, Bulluck wasn't.

    "Slaton didn't do anything," he said. "Slaton busted that run at the end of the game and we pretty much had him in check. To tell you the truth, I don't' think their running game hurt us at all."

    Link

    Yeah, Slaton had no impact on the game. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Wakko67

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    I feel for your injuries and all, but when a guy talks trash about another player getting injured and damn near brags about it, I can't feel sympathy for him. When its the QB of my team.....f*** him.

    I just find it ironic that he gets hurt against us when the trash talk has been notorious.

    I don't wish a career ender for the guy, but there's no tears shed here.
     
  7. CometsWin

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    You're comparing a 13 to 12 NFL smash mouth game to 39 a 33 college game where the QB almost threw for 500 yards? Matt Schaub was getting smacked around like a rag doll, pressured and hit on nearly every single play. Scoring too early? They could barely score all game long.

    Not only that, you keep saying the Texans are the 3rd ranked offense but of course that's just yardage and nobody ever won a game on yardage.

    You've thrown out completely misleading statistics to make your bogus case.

    #7 Titans - 25.5 points/game

    #16 Texans - 23.5 points/game




    You're often in the minority because you consistently pick a narrow view of something and try to extrapolate it into something it isn't. Mr. Contrarian strikes again.
     
  8. geeimsobored

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    The guy can be a complete douche and before my injury I wouldve been in agreement with you but this stuff isnt a joke. After dealing with all the results of this (and still dealing with it) I wouldnt wish this on anyone. Its beyond the realm of joking.

    I hate the Titans as much as anyone but dont wish injury on anyone, especially something of this nature because take it from me, if you went through something like this, you wouldn't wish it on someone else.

    I wont be able to run or even walk properly again but no one should ever suffer something like this. It just isnt funny, period.

    Anyway, we beat the Titans (especially a 12-1 version) and yes, Haynesworth is a douche. Lets celebrate but leave it to that. If you went through what I did, you wont be wishing it on someone else.
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    Wow, some really arrogant and douchey comments in the Titan's postgame quotes.
     
  10. rezdawg

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    Sorry to hear about your situation, but I grew up involved in sports and have had plenty of friends with knee injuries. Not every case is like you are describing it. In fact, I dont know anyone who wasnt able to return to at least 90% of what they used to be. I would consider your situation to be extreme. Most players can come back from knee injuries. Most people can walk normally after knee injuries. It all really depends on what kind of fracture/tear/dislocation took place...but the majority of injuries allow players to come back and play at professional levels. Of course, if you are going to crush a knee into many pieces and rip out some ligaments in the process, we are talking a different story.
     
  11. kaleidosky

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    Most teams, I agree.. but they said Fatdale was something like 8 for 10 on the season with 3rd and 1. Combine that with the great running game/o-line they have.. and the fact that this is what they do.. and I think it was the right call.
     
  12. MadMax

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    Wow..what an encouraging win. This team looks like they can play with anyone right now. Amazing how quickly the defense flipped the switch...not really sure how to explain that.
     
  13. kaleidosky

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    strong correlation with Dunta getting back to full strength.. and that does so many things. B/c the CB depth is poor, it's a huge improvement at #1, #2, and Nickel CB positions by everyone moving down a spot.

    But it also gets a great open-field tackler on the field in Robinson, which is nice when your safeties are very average..

    Not saying it's all him. But that was huge (as we all know)
     
  14. MadMax

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    you're right, that was an important piece. just seems like what i'm seeing is a lot more than just that, though.
     
  15. Dubious

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    The two teams with the best records in the NFL both lost in Texas yesterday!
    yeeeehawww!



    There is a lot of luck involved in separating the good records from the break-even records within the parity of the NFL. The Texans got the worst of it in the first half of the year and the Titians must have gotten the best of it, because they aren't that good. Collins had one good game all year. Maybe missing Vanden Bosch was the key like The Chargers falling apart without Merriman, but everyone but Kearse got pushed around all over the field. If Haynesworth is out, I don't see them making a lot of noise in the playoffs. Most good teams can put 8 in the box and focus on gang tackling and they will stop a one dimensional offenses.

    Okoye finallly had a break out game. Hope it fires him up for gratness.
     
  16. thegary

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    hard to be too encouraged since we are out of the playoffs as usual. we lost the games that counted while the titans won theirs. meaningless game. yawn.
     
  17. kaleidosky

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    hahaha meaningless, right. you're fun. go home
     
  18. msn

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    It's never meaningless to beat the t***.

    If the '2' in 2005 had been against the t***, the season would have been much better to swallow!

    Here's to a 2nd-round good-bye after their first round bye!
     
  19. MadMax

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    meaningless for this year, perhaps..at least in terms of playoff picture.

    but not meaningless in terms of the improvement that it shows in this team. this wasn't like the win against the Jags last season to go 8-8..where the Jags mailed it in.

    and it's not one game that most of us are excited about. it's a trend we've seen develop.
     
  20. The Cat

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    Hey, my stalker's back! Of course, once again, you take the most shallow analysis possible and ignore the context of the specific situation. Once again, points are largely a product of whether you score touchdowns in the red zone as well as trying to score touchdowns. For example, on at least one occasion, the Texans were in field goal range (inside the 35), but Schaub took a sack due to a long-developing play that knocked them out of range. Think you call that play if all you need is a FG? Not a chance.

    Total yardage is a much more reliable statistic than points when it comes to an offenses ability to move the ball between the 20s, the easy part. Now, when it comes to overall offense — i.e. likelihood of scoring touchdowns and punching it in — then you're exactly right. But the Texans wouldn't have needed to score a touchdown. All they'd need is the simple task of moving it from the 30 to the 30, and sorry, but yardage is the most reliable indicator of a team's ability to do that.



    Yeah, you've really shown me up, haven't you... oh wait, what happened here? Suck on this, and keep on being shallow. If I were you, I'd consider moving over to the chron.com forums — I think they have people more on your level of analysis.

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