And their biggest margins of the season were victories against us, a supposed better than mediocre team.
Takes from yesterday: * I started mixing vodka in my Osweiler Koolaid * As bad as he looked, in the 2 losses, fumbles on STs at 15 yd line, and let a punt get returned.. 21 pts to make up, and he already has an issue with trying to do too much, that doesnt help. * Defense was TERRIBLE. That has zero to do with Brock. * Clowney and Mercilus are beasts, if you didn't see that, you were blinded by the rest of the sucking * That TD got me some fantasy pts, so thats cool * I'm not on the Brock train anymore, but I'm still on the tracks, and still tired of comparing who else we could have drafted. We didn't, this is what we have, lets just hope for better play from all aspects, and deal with it.
This patternless pattern of starting out the season terribly sluggish, mixed with embarrassing blowouts... but likely to be followed by some moderate improvement as the season goes on... is seeming to be the MO of BOB-coached teams. Nobody gets any sort of pass... and regardless of who they're missing on both sides of the ball... they need to all be better.
That's how the team is built and it's a proven championship philosophy. Hell the current reigning champs used the exact same philosophy. When you lose a player like JJ Watt, you probably aren't going to be a team that beats the best teams in the league anymore but that doesn't mean you blow the whole thing up. You keep going and you win your division and see what happens in the playoffs. Right now the Texans 2 losses are to arguably the best 2 teams in the NFL. Those kind of losses are just going to happen.
If we hadn't given Osweiler the humongous contract we did, we could have spent that money on acquiring more world class defenders going forward. When you invest heavily on one side of the ball with Brock and Lamar, you expect results or else your team isn't doing anything.
And we'd still be screwed once JJ went down and looking at the same situation as we are now. Again, I know it's hot take week and I accept that. Brock Osweiler looked bad against a team that made Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, and Scam Newton look bad so it's the end of the world. Sure he didn't fumble 3 times like Aaron Rodgers and he didn't throw 3 picks like Scam Newton, but it's panic time just the same.
How do you explain him looking bad against the Pats then. Heck rookie Cody Kessler was 5/8 and threw a TD against New England. Complete scrub QB Charlie Whitehurst outplayed Brock against New England too. Again, if these are the people we are comparing Brock to, it's not good.
You mean he didn't do well against the 4th best scoring defense in the NFL with a patchwork O line and a moronic game plan? I'm shocked.
and yet you can't explain how a rookie 3rd round pick QB and a career backup like Whitehurst each managed to pass for a TD in that game, while Brock could not. Matter of fact the Patriots have faced Tannehill, Palmer, Brock, Tyrod Taylor, Whitehurst, and Kessler this year. Brock was BY FAR the worst performer out of those QBs. You love to use the excuse of how bad Newton or Rodgers looked against Minny compared to Brock, but can't handle it when I flip the script on you.
Probably similar to how Brock managed to not throw 3 interceptions or fumble the ball 3 times against the Vikings while Scam and Rodgers could not. Anyway I accepted that the hot takes would be flying, so I just have to deal with you guys this week. Go nuts with it I guess.
and Brock couldn't outplay Tannehill (who lit the Pats d up) or Tyrod Taylor. I realize that you have difficulty understanding why your arguments are crappy but this one is too obvious, even for you. Moreover, Brock got extremely lucky on a terrible throw that went straight into the hands of a Vikings player that should've been a pick 6.
No it's cool, I told you to go nuts with your laughable hot takes, so keep it up. I did my part throwing a bit of realism and context into the mix, now it's all you.
10 WORST PERFORMANCES FROM SUNDAY’S WEEK 5 NFL ACTION 4. T.J. Clemmings, T, Minnesota Vikings It didn’t seem like there was much room for the Vikings to get worse at left tackle from Matt Kalil after he went down hurt. Enter T.J. Clemmings, and the complete disproval of that notion. Against the Texans this week Clemmings surrendered two sacks, a penalty and was simply abused by Houston defensive end Jadeveon Clowney at the point of attack in the run game. On runs to either side of Clemmings’ block, Minnesota averaged 1.2 yards per carry, and 0.8 of those came after contact. The Vikings had yet another impressive win, but their offensive line is still an issue. 5. Johnathan Joseph, CB, Houston Texans With Stefon Diggs out due to an injury, the Vikings’ passing offense was missing a major weapon, but Joseph wasn’t able to stop the players who were asked to pick up the slack. Joseph was thrown at four times, allowing a catch on all of them for a total of 74 yards and a touchdown. 6. Brock Osweiler, QB, Houston Texans This was not a good week for the Texans, who were throttled by the Vikings on the road. Osweiler was actually pressured more than he was kept clean, feeling heat on 24 of his 46 dropbacks. When he was hurried, his passer rating was just 18.8, and he completed only 25 percent of his passes. Read more here about the struggles of Osweiler, who has regressed since his strong Week 1 debut. Spoiler Texans-Vikings grades Quarterback grade: Brock Osweiler, 32.4 Texans fans have reason to worry about Brock Osweiler’s play There’s really no other way to put it — Osweiler’s dismal play to this point in the season, and particularly during this loss to the Vikings, has the Broncos looking brilliant for letting him leave town to chase the huge contract Houston gave him in the offseason. Being under pressure on 22 of 46 dropbacks didn’t help him in this one, but his poor decision-making and lack of accuracy in those situations were the real issues. When faced with pressure against the Vikings, he completed just four of 18 passes for 45 yards and an interception, and took four sacks. His worst play of the game ended up being a simple incompletion, as he floated a ball to the boundary that was dropped by Vikings safety Harrison Smith, which would have been a walk-in pick-six had Smith held onto it. Top offensive grades: TE CJ Fiedorowicz, 80.2 WR DeAndre Hopkins, 74.0 RB Lamar Miller, 68.4 RB Alfred Blue, 68.3 C Greg Mancz, 51.8 Entire offense grades poorly in loss When center Greg Mancz makes the list of top offensive grades and he only has a 51.8, obviously things did not go well. The entire offensive line struggled in both phases of the game, but pass protection was the biggest issue. Three linemen gave up at least three pressures, with Derek Newton (who played 28 snaps at right guard and 36 snaps at right tackle) leading the way by yielding a sack, two hits and three hurries. The receivers complicated things for Osweiler and the offensive line by struggling to create separation, as evidenced by Minnesota’s four pass break-ups. Top defensive grades: ED Jadeveon Clowney, 89.2 CB Kevin Johnson, 81.6 LB Benardrick McKinney, 81.5 ED John Simon, 80.9 CB A.J. Buoye, 79.2 Jadeveon Clowney posts the best game grade of his career Texans DE Jadeveon Clowney was a dominant run defender against Minnesota, and repeatedly whipped the Vikings’ offensive tackles to make plays behind the line of scrimmage en route to earning a dazzling 97.9 run-defense grade. Clowney had six run stops and he also generated one hit and one hurry on 24 pass rushes. Second-year cornerback Kevin Johnson was the Texans’ best coverage defender against the Vikings (81.8 coverage grade). Johnson was thrown at seven times and allowed five catches, but only for 40 yards. Johnathan Joseph struggled and allowed all four of his targets to be caught for 74 yards and 1 TD. Whitney Mercilus provided the Texans with their biggest pass-rushing presence in J.J. Watt’s absence. Mercilus (83.1 pass-rushing grade) had two sacks, two hits and two hurries on 25 pass-rushing snaps.
TEXANS HAVE REASON TO BE WORRIED ABOUT BROCK OSWEILER’S PLAY SO FAR THIS YEAR It’s getting uncomfortable for head coach Bill O’Brien in Houston, with the performance thus far of big-money QB Brock Osweiler five games into the season. Having begun the year with an excellent debut, Osweiler has been getting poorer as the year goes on and was disastrous Sunday against one of the league’s best defenses this week in the Minnesota Vikings. Against Minnesota, Osweiler ended with a PFF grade of 32.5, having played even worse than his raw stats suggest — and the raw stats were far from pretty. He finished the game with a passer rating of 56.1, but 89 of his 184 yards (48.3 percent) came after the catch. He didn’t complete a single pass that traveled 20-plus yards downfield, despite taking five of those deep shots, and was only five of 14 on attempts that traveled 10 or more yards in the air. 14 of his 19 completions were passes that traveled less than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Osweiler was actually OK when he was given a clean pocket by his offensive line, completing 63.6 percent of his passes with a passer rating of 93.7, but the issue was he was actually pressured on more dropbacks against Minnesota than he was kept clean. The Vikings were able to pressure him on 52.2 percent of his dropbacks, the most of any QB in the league this week, and when he was pressured his production fell off a cliff. Under pressure, Osweiler’s passer rating was just 18.8, and he completed 25 percent of his passes. In the NFL today there are plenty of QBs who can get the job done if they are kept clean at all times in the pocket. What separates those that can lead an NFL offense from those that can’t is the ability to succeed under pressure. In 2015 for Denver, Osweiler’s passer rating dropped from 95.9 when kept clean to 66.9 when the heat was applied. That doesn’t look good, but that kind of drop is about in line with the league average. This season the effect of pressure has been far greater. When kept clean through five games his passer rating is 92.9 and he has completed 66.4 percent of his passes. That’s almost a perfect match with a year ago when the numbers were 95.9 and 66.5 percent, respectively. The rest of his production stats are right in line as well, but when the heat has come on it is a different story. While under pressure as the Broncos quarterback, his passer rating dropped to 66.9. This season, it has plummeted to 23.1. He completed 52.2 percent of his passes under pressure a year ago, but this year it is only 40 percent, while his yards per attempt is more than three full yards lower at 3.7, compared to 6.9 last season. This isn’t a product of a poor Houston offensive line, but rather a notable difference in Osweiler’s play. He has actually been pressured on a smaller percentage of his dropbacks than he was last season for Denver — even including this week’s destruction at the hands of the Vikings defense — but his play just hasn’t been able to handle the pressure that has come. He has already thrown as many interceptions (four) under pressure as he did in the seven games he started last season for the Broncos, and the problem looks to be getting worse rather than better. Osweiler was signed to a huge-money deal based on a projection of what he could become. It was a gamble, and the issue is that the sample size of his tape was always dangerously small. There was as much bad tape as there was good, and the projection could just as easily go in a negative direction as it could a positive direction. This is a quarterback who was benched for Peyton Manning at a time when Manning was playing outright bad football, because the Broncos thought that gave them the best chance to win games despite an all-time great defense that meant their QB didn’t have to carry the team the way many others in the league do. Osweiler effectively had to fulfill the role that Trevor Siemian is this season for the Broncos, and the team didn’t think Osweiler was their best option to do that — at least not at the price tag it would take to retain him. This year, for the Texans, Osweiler’s job is tougher. He can’t just sit at the helm and steer the ship, but he has to be the engine as well, and a foundational piece of the entire machine. We are still dealing in very small sample sizes with Osweiler, so it’s a little early to be writing him off, but he now has 12 career starts to his name and hasn’t had a run of more than two consecutive games where you could say he has been anything better than average. His baseline right now is heading in the wrong direction, and he looks far more like a big-money flop than a player destined to justify that lofty contract. Houston has outs built into the contract, but the fact that it already looks likely to need them says all you need to know about the gamble it was to sign him. That has to be very concerning for a staff that has much of their reputation tied up in the success or failure of that offseason gamble.
This is pretty much what I was saying yesterday, when the O line kept the pocket clean, Osweiler looked pretty good, when they couldn't, he got happy feet and looked very bad. For those hyping up Dak Prescott, being behind the best O line in the NFL has a whole lot to do with his early success, put him behind the Texans O line, and he'd fare no better than Brock Osweiler has, possibly worse. The worst thing for rookie QB's is to face a ton of pressure and have to deal with a patchwork O line and that's exactly the situation here. The fact that Osweiler got pressured more times than the Vikings even blitzed shows the depth of the O line's ineptitude. This simply has to get better going forward.
The Texans have been doing what the Rockets did last season for years and everyone bailed on them but keeps having faith on the Texans. The ass backwards world of football in Houston. The Kook-aid is strong. Must be nice for McNair
