Jared Allen freaking owned us. Why would the Chiefs trade him? I thought our defense played well in spurts, but then we gave up big plays between the spurts. I guess I'll call it progress? On offense, what can you say? We coughed up the ball in the red zone. We were getting 1st downs on them but couldn't convert. The Schaub throw was a terrible throw, while the Sage throw was a terrible decision. Our o-line didn't give us a chance. Vikings d-line is beasty. Hopefully Schaub can play against the Ravens, but I wouldn't be surprised if our o-line gets destroyed again.
reeves sucks. how many times will this guy get burned? There is a reason why Dallas didnt want to resign him.
Because it was either trade him and get SOMETHING for him, or lose him in FA and get nada. Allen wasn't going to resign with KC, he hated Herman Edwards and Carl Peterson, and for good reason.
Its the same story every time the Texans lose -- they get beat in the trenches. There are several reasons that teams are successful, but one if the big reasons is that they win the battle at the line. The offensive line play of the Texans has been mediocre at best for much of the teams existence. It only took seven drafts for the Texans to draft a LT in the first round, and while they intentions from the beginning by taking Bosseli and Ryans to bookend the line, it never panned out. Eric Winston is probably the only bright spot on the OL, everyone else on the line is second team IMO (that includes an overpaid Chester Pitts). What happened to the Alex Gibbs cut blocking scheme? The Texans OL is consistently getting beat upfront and there doesn't seem to be anything they can do about it. Duane Brown is a rookie going up against some of the best the NFL has to offer, so its natural to see him get beat a couple of times, but when he does get beat is he learning from the mistakes he made? Are the coaches working with him on his technique? As for the defensive line, this has to be the biggest disappointment for me as a Texans fan. Mario is all world, he is doing the things that need to be done. That doesn't mean he can't improve on things, but he is definitely a huge cornerstone of the DL. What the hell is going on with Amobi Okoye? I know he is young for an NFL player, blah blah blah. Okoye has regressed considerably since last season and looks like is just going through the motions. I have looked at the last couple of games and neither of the DTs are getting a good push upfront (sans the Bengals game where the DL had their way against an inferior OL). Its not easy to win in the NFL, but the Texans are good at beating the inferior teams and then not being able to put it together to beat the good teams. The only game where they got flat out beat was the Pittsburgh game, other than that they should have been in every game this season. Its the little mistakes and not paying attention to detail that is killing this team, and that falls squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. IMO there is enough talent to win, but their execution of the game plan and discipline have to be flawless and they make too many mistakes and allow the other teams to capitalize. Here's hoping they can turn it around soon.
he does - some. but iirc, both red zone picks were on roll-outs. neither QB is very good outside the pocket.
To the more knowledgeable football fans, is our current QB (when healthy) a playoff caliber QB? Do you anticipate the Texans drafting a QB next Spring?
I doubt they draft a QB. If anything, with the the Titans VY have been going, I wouldn't be surprised to see VY getting cut or traded and end up in Houston. Question is, would YOU trade Schuab or Sage for Vince?
Are you serious? Vince has proved absolutely nothing as far as being a legitimate NFL quarterback. He's a terrible decision maker and his arm is not that good. Schaub won't be traded, and if Sage is they'll get something better in return.
I would trade Schaub for VY in a hot second. If anybody remembers Elway's early days, he was labeled as an extremely athletic QB who ran around and played playground style and had a difficult time learning a systematic offense. In fact, you could make the case that Elway never was terribly effective in a systematic offense but simply dominated by taking so many broken plays and turning them into home runs. Those were the Shanahan-Kubiak days. I think Kubiak could make a player out of VY. I still think VY will be a championship player. However, I do not think in our wildest dreams that Tennessee would trade him to us for anything less than two first rounders plus a player.
Elway had a rating of 76.8 in his second year, 79.0 in his fourth year, and threw for 18, 22 and 19 touchdowns in years 2-4. Vince is, um, nowhere close to any of those. Elway's problems were largely as you said -- systematic. For VY, if you actually watch the games, his problems go far and beyond just scheme. His arm just isn't that good. There's no way in hell I'd move Schaub for VY. And I say that as someone who adored Vince in college and went to both Rose Bowls. He's just not all that. As for the idea that Tennessee could get or would want two first rounders... LOL! Vince's trade market, at this time, maxes out at a fourth-round pick. And that's a serious maybe. Your delusions on VY seem to be comparable to your read on the 100-loss Astros.
did you even watch the games when VY was at Texas? VY's arm isn't his problem. VY's problem is his NFL IQ. Kerry Collins is a turd in Tenn also. He just doesn't make as many bone-headed mistakes as VY. Schaub is as frail as a feather. IDK if I trade Schaub for VY though......
Umm...his arm is a problem along with the IQ. He has a strong arm, but he can't make the precise throws needed by an NFL quarterback. Schaub is injury prone, yes, but I wouldn't call him frail. To be fair, his injuries have all come from pretty vicious hits (see Haynesworth planting him into the ground in both games last year). And this is the first time he's gotten hurt this year...remember he was sick against Indy. I don't have a problem with him being a little injury prone as long as we have a backup like Sage and Schaub doesn't miss half the season every year. His roughest games are usually against brutal d-lines like Tennessee, Jacksonville, and Pittsburgh this year. Our line struggles against those (as most lines do) and he's just a little slow-footed in the pocket, which leads to a lot of hits. He's just got to learn to take care of the ball when that happens. Once he learns to do that and as our line continues to improve, he can be one of the most efficient quarterbacks in the league.
the cat - it was two first rounders plus a player. i think (hope) jopatmc meant they'd never deal him within the division and certainly not back to houston, unless they received a king's ransom.
Sage is better than Shaub. Shaub put up great numbers against bad teams. The one good win against the jaguars does not look that good any more. Sage had a pretty good game yesterday despite his pick. He had over a 100 passer rating and over 220 yards in a half.
what's up with clock management. i was listening on the radio when sage threw his pic, even over the radio you could "see" it coming because they didn't get the play in on time and rushed. granted, sage should have thrown that ball away, but what is up with kubiak and clock managment?
Schaub played hurt for the whole first half yesterday. If he isn't gimpy on that left ankle, he makes that throw to Leach for the game tying TD and who knows what happens after that. If you want to argue that he should have taken himself out when he first got hurt, that's one thing. But I will argue that, with a healthy Matt Schaub, we win that game yesterday. I don't buy that 'putting up good numbers against crappy teams' argument. This is the NFL, not college football. BTW, that pick by Sage that you're so willing to write off basically lost the game for us. Also, that sorry 2-minute drill he tried to run at the end of the game was just pathetic. Taking 2 sacks on consecutive plays to end the game. Sheesh. Throw the ball away, don't take the sack.
wrong, that pick was inconsequential, the texans would have only gotten a field goal if he just throws it away, the vikings didn't score.
