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[Official] Texans Offseason

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 8, 2023.

  1. rfrocket

    rfrocket Member

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    I totally agree.
    That's what makes the Cooks situation even worse!

    I also don't like the receivers that look to be available at 1-12 either (Johnston, Addison, JSN).
    I like Hyatt (we NEED a deep threat) but only after a trade down.

    I really think 1-12's a great spot to get DL/edge rusher though.
    And there's several I like there too
     
  2. rfrocket

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    Yeah I think it's probably a pride thing.

    Cooks made up his mind last year he wanted out and wouldn't allow even Demeco to get him to reverse his decision.
     
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  3. rfrocket

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    Actually when I looked at Stingley's college tape even from his glorious freshman season at LSU I really didn't like some of his technique.
    He had/has a BAD habit of turning his back to his man early and running backwards in man coverage.
    If you guess wrong you can end up 15 yards away from him.

    Never understood why someone that runs a 4.33 would need to bail that early to make sure and not get ran by.
    I'm also not one of these fanboys that think if you flipped DSjr and Sauce Gardner's teams with each other the results would be the same.
    So there's a VERY HIGH BAR that's been set for Stingley to look like a good pick for me.


    As for Green I didn't want to draft a guard that high but if I did it would have been Tyler Smith.
    Not to mention Green's more the road grader type and it remains to be seen how he'll fit into the zone blocking scheme even with improved health/play.


    I'm ALL FOR drafting another tight end high and running 2 te sets.
    The Shanahan offense uses those frequently anyway.
    There's several te's I like in this draft too.

    But that still doesn't take away the fact that we absolutely HAVE TO be able to threaten all 3 areas of the field (short, medium and long) or else the defense will stack the box against 2 te/2 rb sets!


    I can't fathom starting a season with Nico Collins as your #1 wideout, even with an improved te contingent!
    And there's only a few receivers in the draft that can get deep regularly that I like for us.
    Mainly Hyatt, Dell and T. Scott.
    Luckily 1or 2 of those should be available in round 3.
     
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    I understand the point but you're talking about the first 5-7 years of QB1s career.

    The idea is to help the qb as much as possible. How good would a young Russell Wilson be without Marshawn?

    A committee approach may also extend the shelf life by 1-3 years...
     
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    They're rookies some develop faster than others. Let's get them healthy and see how they do this year. BTW, I didn't like the Stingley pick at the time. Never pick a guy that high that has Lisfranc issues.

    Lovie worked out both Stingley and Sauce personally, so I think Stingley was his call. But Caserio should have overruled.
     
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    I also think 1-12 is where the bijan pick would be. So instead of him (that’s a packed RB room with him as well) I would want Nolan Smith 1st, and JSN second)

    dream would be smith 1-12, best TE at 2-33 (Schultz is only 1 year) and then Dell or Hyatt after that.
     
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  9. rfrocket

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    I agree about giving players time to develop but Sauce has set an all-pro bar with no significant injury history and it will be VERY hard imo for DSjr to match or exceed that unless for some reason Sauce falters after his rookie year.
    So imo even if DSjr turns into a good or even very good corner I will consider it a BAD pick because of what Nick left on the table (Sauce).

    Also I posted multiple times that Lovie has stated on video that as soon as HE talked to DSjr HE knew DSjr would be the pick!
    So I think Nick deferred to Lovie on AT LEAST all the defensive picks in the draft and probably more than that.
    Remember when Christian Harris was still on board in the 3rd round last year and our war room celebrated?
    If you watch it's Lovie that's the most celebrative and Nick is too but kind of looking at Lovie when he does (deferring).

    Green seems like a Lovie type pick as well as defensive coaches like Smith usually like "3 yards and a cloud of dust" offense with a QB that doesn't take chances that will give the other team turnovers.
    So imo Green "fits" the type of offense Lovie's always run.

    And if Nick's not really making the decisions on draft/ roster moves then WHY IS HE GM?!!

    What's the difference between his regime and B.O.B.'s where he was coach and GM at the same time?!
     
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    Caserio and Lovie worked together. Caserio's job is to setup trades, both in the draft and Cooks type trades. Also to negotiate contracts, contact possible FA's that the HC wants and see if parameters of a deal can be worked out etc...

    Same with Ryans, Caserio is getting the players Ryans wants on his team, with the scouts help. In short they're working together. It's been a long time since the GM/HC have been working together to get the players the HC wants down on Kirby. So it's certainly not recognizable to some. This is how they do things in Kansas City/Buffalo/New England/NYG etc... the HC/GM work in concert with each other.
     
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    If Green takes a step up and they hit on the center position the Texans will have a young, top 10 oline.
     
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    How does this change with the additions of the last couple of weeks? In particular the addition of Shaq Mason and Michael Dieter.
     
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    It already has Shaq Mason accounted for, hence the high grade at RG. Deiter was just signed a few hours ago, so I'd assume that C score will go up once they factor that in.
     
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    Crazy that some ppl were down to let tunsil go and move Howard to LT.. lol.
     
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    Bring in Newton. Draft Richardson to learn under one of his heroes.
     
  17. red5rocket

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    I know he’s older but Bobby Wagner would’ve been a nice veteran pick up
     
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  18. justtxyank

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    Doesn't he want to play for a contender?
     
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  19. red5rocket

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    He does…we are :rolleyes:
     
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