I agree that Darnold played better than Stroud last year and I never said otherwise. If I remember correctly the Texans offense was the worst or one of the worst in the league on first and second down, often leaving Stroud in third and long with awful protection. You can compare pressure stats between the two, but I’d like you to find one person that thinks that Slowik’s offense was any where near as good as the Vikings’ was. Of course that opinion doesn’t exist because no one thinks that. And great talent and a bad offensive mind can stagnate an offense, meanwhile a great offensive mind can elevate mediocre talent for a little while, which is probably why Darnold was so awful late in the season. And Stroud definitely played better in the playoffs, especially after the botched snap in the chargers game. In the Chiefs game, despite being sacked 8 times with the highest pressure rate in a playoff game in years, he threw for 245 yards with no interceptions and a 67% completion percentage. That’s not great but considering the circumstances, and with how Mahomes played with a much lower pressure percentage in the Super Bowl, was pretty good.
I think pressure should be broken down by time. Pressure at under 3 seconds is different than pressure over 3 seconds.
Darnold- Pocket time 2.6 seconds, 48 sacks, Pressure % 24.5, Hits 52, CJ-Pocket time 2.5 seconds, 52 sacks, Pressure % 28, Hits 56 There was a poster that said Darnold had all day to throw and wasn’t under pressure. It’s just not true. Imagine if they didn’t have KOC and a much better scheme.
Agreed, but instead blaming Slowk, he didn't have weapons like Jefferson/Addison/NaylorHockenson etc... so that when Slowik called plays the talent could kind of help negate the pressure CJ was under. The opportunities were there last yr for plays to be made for both the Texans and the Vikings. The Vikings had playmakers, the Texans didn't.
You can find that too, very easy to find. I have those as well. You aren’t going to find anywhere that says Darnold wasn’t pressured. CJ was pressured a ton, not the most in the league by rate though.
Vikings numbers aren’t much different than Texans when it comes to skill positions. Schultz was more productive than Hock, Mixon more productive than Jones. Nico and JJ a wash. Addison a bit better than Tank Diggs was better than Nailor in less games.
You're saying Darnold had a better yr based upon statics but CJ is better overall. Darnold did have a good yr and CJ, based upon his rookie season, did fall short.of expectations. However, I'm saying, there is a lot that go into that, that is why I don't weigh on statics heavily and I'm glad the Texan's talent evaluators doesn't either. There are too many variables. That is why so many GMs, talent evaluators, etc. miss on players, because they look at stats, rather than the EYE TEST. Darnold is and should in no way be compared to CJ
This isn’t remotely true. It’s what you want to believe. Darnold was pressured just as much as CJ and still but up better numbers than CJ’s first year. I wouldn’t trade CJ for Darnold, but CJ has done nothing to prove that he’s elite-yet. He had one good season and one average to below average season. This year is prove it years for both of them.
Which is a credit to CJ, Slowik. The Texans skill position players are nowhere nearly as good as the Vikings skill position players.
I feel like Nico, Tank, Diggs and Mixon is a very good group of skill players. Preseason everyone was raving about them. Of course injuries happened.
Perhaps you can tell me how many of those pressures were in less than 3 seconds? This gives me context on whether the QB had time to get rid of the ball.
They're good players, but aren't as good as the Vikings IMHO. Also the Texans skill position players can't stay healthy.
Those two specifically had almost identical time in the pocket, time to throw and pressure rates. Look whatever else you want up.
