Reading comprehension. Darnold was unequivocally better in every category last year. That doesn’t mean he’s better, but it’s up to CJ to prove if he’s an 87 passer rating or 100 passer rating player. It’s up to Darnold to prove if he’s the 102 passer rating guy or the guy he’s been his first 6 years. All I’m saying is calling Darnold trash when he far outplayed CJ last season is dumb. There’s a reason Darnold was a top 5 pick, he’s always been talented. Also, stop making excuses for Stroud. He played like trash a majority of the year last season compared to what he did the first season. Elite players elevate others, not let things affect them. If he needs massive help from every position, he’s just another Dak, Tua, Purdy type.
Extreme lengths? I know you’re old, and a little hard to maneuver the inter webs. But that link is super easy to read. Put your cheaters on and read. This is why no one takes Houston seriously, no objectivity. Darnold was far better than CJ last year, it wasn’t even close. CJ was an average to below average QB last season
Trashing a player that far outperformed our player is dumb. If it changes this season, then trash away. But it’s up to the players to prove it.
Kirk is another 1 year rental without the pizza delivery side hustle. He'd be insane not to test free agency if he stays healthy. We can't have receivers making cameos like it's a scooby doo episode without having two dependable mainstay targets first. The bizarre friendly fire that got Dell really set back the WR room. It must be fixed. Which is why you can't do OL,OL,OL in the first three rounds. They're also big on Fisher+ Scruggs and counting on their progression. Patterson is often overlooked. He will be a better player. OL, WR, OL, DT, TE should be more realistic for the draft. I think they're in a great spot to maneuver in every round of the draft. Flexible with options. It hasn't been a boring off season. fo' sho
Actually kind of a worry to me. If Kirk stays healthy and does what he’s capable of, he’s going to want a payday. With his injury history that would be risky.
You can say Darnold had a better season than CJ last year, but there is not a single GM in the league who would take Darnold over CJ. Not a single one. And I bet they take into account his 102 rating. And if that’s not what you are saying then why are you saying it? Who cares if Darnold had a single better season than CJ while CJ averaged more pressure than Mahomes could handle in one game. Darnold had an outlier season, in a contract year, for a very good and well built team with a great offensive head coach. Why do you care to boost him up more? And can we stop with the “early pick for a reason, talent is there” schtick? Levis is about to get some competition, Richardson is getting Daniel freaking Jones brought in. You seem to focus on the physical attributes and so far none of the people you fawn over have worked out. So just let the fans trash on Darnold, it doesnt matter.
Most of the people I’ve liked have worked out, outside of Levis. You guys can’t take any criticism without getting your panties in a bunch. CJ was not good, his predraft concerns showed up last season. Not one person has said Darnold is better than CJ, but calling a player trash who had a great season while simultaneously making every excuse in the world for our QB who had a very middling season is weird. If Darnold is “trash” then what is CJ? One good season, one bad season. I didn’t bring up Darnold, just saying the Seahawks could do well IF Darnold is what he was last season with the talent around him. Why is that hard to understand? CJ still had a lot to prove, he hasn’t shown he’s the man yet. Neither has Darnold. Calling one trash is weird.
I think the main thing you're missing is the COMPARISONS being made in the first place. CJ has been in the NFL 2yrs and has LEAD a team to the Divisional Rnd twice. And losing to Baltimore and KC on their field on the Playoffs, is nothing to be ashamed of. In addition, let's not forget he lost two of his weapons in Diggs and Tank. Darnold has been a disappointment since he came into the league. This is why I don't see the comparison. It makes no sense. I think this is a product of the fact that you wanted the Texans to draft Levis coming out of college, rather than CJ.
CJ had done well for what he was given last season. If the OL can improve, he'll be back to MVP vote getting QB again.
Spoiler QB: C.J. Stroud | Davis Mills | Kedon Slovis RB: Joe Mixon | Dameon Pierce | Dare Ogunbowale | J.J. Taylor | British Brooks | Jawhar Jordan WR: Nico Collins | Xavier Hutchinson | Johnny Johnson III | Xavier Johnson WR: Justin Watson | Jared Wayne | Tank Dell WR: Christian Kirk | John Metchie III | Braxton Berrios | Kearis Jackson TE: Dalton Schultz | Cade Stover | Brevin Jordan OT: Tytus Howard | Austin Deculus G: Laken Tomlinson | Nick Broeker | LaDarius Henderson C: Jarrett Patterson | Jerome Carvin G: Juice Scruggs | Ed Ingram | Tremayne Anchrum Jr. OT: Blake Fisher | Zach Thomas | Jaylon Thomas DE: Will Anderson Jr. | Darrell Taylor | Dylan Horton | Casey Toohill | Kingsley Jonathan DT: Tim Settle Jr. | Kurt Hinish | Tommy Togiai DT: Sheldon Rankins | Mario Edwards Jr. | Jayden Peevy DE: Danielle Hunter | Derek Barnett | Denico Autry | Solomon Byrd LB: Henry To'oTo'o | Christian Harris | Jake Hansen LB: Azeez Al-Shaair | Nick Niemann | Jamal Hill CB: Derek Stingley Jr. | Tremon Smith | Anthony Averett CB: Kamari Lassiter | D'Angelo Ross CB: Jalen Pitre | Gregory Junior S: Calen Bullock | M.J. Stewart | Brandon Hill S: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson | Jimmie Ward | Russ Yeast
First, I didn’t want Levis. Second, no one is saying Darnold is better than CJ overall. Darnold 100% was better last season, by so much. Third, I didn’t make the comparison or bring him first, just simply said you can’t call Darnold trash when he was far better last season. The metrics for pressure rate are similar, they both had their main guy in Nico and JJ. CJ doesn’t need your excuses, he played poorly. If he truly is elite, he will rise above-most of the time.
Has to do it more than one year, he wasn’t great in the playoffs this season. Neither against the Chargers or the Chiefs. That’s ok though, but if he’s going to be elite he has to put a team on his back at times.
Pressure made Mahomes, who is one of the greatest qbs ever, play absolutely awful in two Super Bowls. CJ’s average pressure rate this year was worse than Mahomes’s was in this year’s Super Bowl. CJ had zero quick options to deal with the pressure, and his OC couldn’t seem to design a run game or a viable protection scheme. Just about every offensive player on our team this year performed worse than they have historically, save for Nico and maybe Mixon. But sure, CJ should’ve elevated everyone. I guess Mahomes may not be the guy either since he couldn’t elevate his team in the one game that he had to deal with similar pressure that CJ dealt with all year. Of course CJ needs to play better this year, it he was a second year QB in a horrible offensive situation last year. I doubt many QBs would’ve done well.
There are factors that played into it, more-so in the beginning of the season. I posted the pressure rates and sacks, pretty much every metric for CJ and Darnold. They aren’t that different. Even surrounding talent isn’t much different. Darnold had a much better Offensive mind leading for sure. That’s why I said he has to prove that it wasn’t a fluke. CJ has to prove he’s more like first year and not second year. That isn’t a hard concept. If CJ gets back to quick reads, throwing with anticipation and being accurate then he will be able to lead the team. Last year he did not show it.
I believe I had posted a tweet about Mahomes pressure rate or percentage in the Super Bowl and that was the average pressure rate cj had to face all season
