1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Texans offseason thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    I would love for someone to clarify this for me. Can a team simply franchise tag a player at the end of his contract, therefore not allowing him to test free agency? Of course I know that only one player can be given this tag.

    This seems to be the case after I googled it. I never knew that there was even a non-exclusive franchise tag also.

    And if players are always so unhappy about it, why did the players union allow this inclusion in the cba?
     
  2. Naija Texan

    Naija Texan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,043
    Likes Received:
    55
    All I know is that if Dunta isn't at camp by next week, he would have shown his true colors.

    The team has new coaches and are in fairly new set up but he doesn't show up. Right now the team needs him, with various corners banged up and if he is b****ing over a possible franchise tag, he really is just making it clear he doesn't care about the team's future.


    I feel for Rick Smith, by now I am sure, they probably weren't planning on using the franchise tag on Robinson anyway, considering all the guys coming up to FA next offseason including Owen Daniels but you'd hate to look like you are giving in to Dunta and set a precedent for future player hold outs.
     
  3. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    26,389
    Likes Received:
    16,725
    Technically, Dunta isn't under contract. He is basically pigeonholed into only playing for the Texans next season. Dunta will get paid the same if he signs now or after training camp. Dunta will sign at the latest point possible to get credit for the season and make the most money. Dunta is not happy with the Texans and won't do them any favors.

    A CB of Dunta's skill is worth a lot and it shakes my confidence in the GM when an asset like this isn't taken care of. Granted, I think Dunta's agent is really an idiot too based on Dunta having no idea the Texans would franchise him. If Demeco and Daniels get locked up, it will help the GM's cred a lot.
     
  4. rezdawg

    rezdawg Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2000
    Messages:
    18,351
    Likes Received:
    1,149
    First off, Dunta is not currently a top 10 CB...also, given the fact that he was coming off a MAJOR injury, there is no need for any team to make him the highest paid CB in the league until he proves it.

    The Texans offered him a contract, that by many sources, amounted to making Dunta one of the highest paid CBs in the league. Dunta refused to sign that.

    I dont know what else Robinson is expecting, but he has shown that he is a little b****. As far as Im concerned, he can take his whiny ass somewhere else. Im incredibly disappointed in him.
     
  5. conquistador#11

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    39,160
    Likes Received:
    28,305
    what gives me hope in the dunta crisis is the julius peppers situation. Every year he has demanded extensions, trades, yadda yadda but he is still playing for the panthers. Maybe we too can drag this out for another 3 years, let him walk when he is 30. =)
     
  6. Canadiandude

    Canadiandude Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,851
    Likes Received:
    176
    This is getting me fired up. Barwin had an exciting showing at the NLF combines, and I feared that he was just be a workout warrior. From all the interviews I read of him, he seems to have his head on straight and will play with a high motor. If Barwin merges as a consistent pass rusher opposite Mario, wow, what a steal at the second round he would be.
     
  7. leroy

    leroy Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    27,351
    Likes Received:
    11,213
    I understand Dunta is pissed about not getting the contract he wanted...but for chrissakes man...you're getting nearly $10 million this season. Get your ass in camp and prove to the Texans and the league that you're 100% so that you can get that long term deal.
     
  8. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2000
    Messages:
    18,813
    Likes Received:
    5,218
    I still have a bad feeling about Dunta missing a couple of games for some strange reason...He has gone Marbury on us...? Who knows.
     
    #488 ROXRAN, Aug 4, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2009
  9. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2000
    Messages:
    18,813
    Likes Received:
    5,218
    [​IMG]
     
  10. rezdawg

    rezdawg Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2000
    Messages:
    18,351
    Likes Received:
    1,149
    Reeves broke his leg today...not good. Dammit.
     
  11. Uprising

    Uprising Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2000
    Messages:
    43,073
    Likes Received:
    6,599
    Damn. (Jacques Reeves out 6-8 weeks with fractured fibula, Myers still being assessed )

    Well, good news about Kyle getting the reins for the offense. Kubiak letting him have full control, like he did in the Bear's game last season where the Texans were 5 of 5 in the red zone for TD's.
     
    #491 Uprising, Aug 5, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2009
  12. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    26,389
    Likes Received:
    16,725
    I give you the injury thing. Healthy, I think he is a top 10 CB..barely. Even if he isn't, he's very close to it or he would not have been worth the franchise tag. Dunta has two years left as a Texan and then will be elsewhere.
     
  13. vinsensual

    vinsensual Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2008
    Messages:
    8,460
    Likes Received:
    794
    I agree barring the injury, Dunta was a lower top 10 CB, and by far our most reliable DB, if only because the safeties got injured or the talent disparity on the other side of the field with faggins and then reeves. I had such high hopes that Dunta would remain and retire a Texan. He had that quote that went something like watch out for us next year.

    I want to blame the agent, since he's the common factor in the Daniels and Dunta dilemmas. Anytime you hear about an agent, it's never good news.
     
  14. DieHard Rocket

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2000
    Messages:
    9,413
    Likes Received:
    1,161
    Good point, especially when you look at the way DeMeco has handled things. He fired his agent and things changed drastically, and while I'm sure he's still upset at no long-term deal, he's in camp for the benefit of the team.

    Daniels is in camp, but came in mouthing off to the media the first day. That really isn't going to get you anywhere. He's only there because he is under contract.

    Hopefully we'll have a good season and winning will cure all...these guys are only going to hurt themselves if this carries over into the season and impacts the team.
     
  15. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2000
    Messages:
    18,813
    Likes Received:
    5,218
    Some bold predictions from a football expert:....(courtesy of chron.com)

    For the last 50 years, Gil Brandt has scouted college players for the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL.

    In his 30 years (1960-89) as the Cowboys' director of player personnel, Brandt uncovered more nuggets than a gold miner. During his visit to the Texans' training camp over the weekend as part of the Sirius Radio broadcast crew, Brandt made two stunning predictions.

    First, Brandt predicted the Texans will win the AFC South. Then, he said rookie cornerback Glover Quin would become one of the biggest surprises in the league this season.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6560934.html
     
  16. rockets934life

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    15,312
    Likes Received:
    249
    richardjustice Texans are bringing in several CBs for tryouts, including former Bronco and Patriot Delta O'Neal.

    A former Bronco big surprise....but honestly not a bad move still wouldn't mind seeing them go after Chris McAllister!
     
  17. DieHard Rocket

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2000
    Messages:
    9,413
    Likes Received:
    1,161
    O'neal started 10 games for the Patriots last season. Granted, the Pats were hit pretty hard by injuries last year, it's not like we plucked someone from a bad team.
     
  18. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2000
    Messages:
    21,941
    Likes Received:
    6,695
    The texans need DR back. The Texans defense is not great and may go 6-10 with no corners.
     
  19. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    36,411
    Likes Received:
    9,353
    Sheesh, the injuries are already piling up and we're not even to the first preseason game yet.

    What IS it with Houston teams lately? T-Mac, Yao, Oswalt, Berkman... I shudder to think who it will be with the Texans...

    :rolleyes:
     
  20. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,527
    Likes Received:
    5,528
    don't we have a pretty decent idea.... not sayin anything but... come on.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now