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[Official?]Texans Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by leroy, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

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    I hope I'm wrong as well. I just sense an entrenched attitude amongst this organization to prove that they were right in passing on the 2006 QBs in the draft in favor of Mario W. It's that attitude that worries me the most because it jeopardizes this organization's ability to pull itself back to respectability. For the record, my beef with the organization is not about who they took or what they did but with their reasons for doing what they did.
     
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  2. HillBoy

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    So now one is gullible because he fails to see how anyone would buy this line of "reasoning"? Let me get this straight: The Texans' saying these things will increase Carr's trade value? In what way and to whom? This line of thinking assumes that other teams are stupid drones who have no clue and don't watch film. It's all there for everyone to see: the fumbles, the bad games, the stripped down offense, the bad throws and so on. I find it totally implausible that other teams will ignore this concrete visual evidence and buy the Texans' rhetoric so much that they will offer a sweet trade deal for him. To do so would be the height of gullibility. But if P.T. Barnum was right then maybe there is a sucker out there that will bail the Texans' out.
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

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    Hillboy, what are the Texans supposed to say about Carr? You never answered that question.

    A few days ago, they were sending out feelers all over the league that they were looking to trade Carr. Now, they're saying he can still succeed. What do you think made them change their minds in the last 48 hours?

    You seem to be missing the point that this all just comes with the territory during the offseason, especially when a team is looking to make a deal. Every team uses the media to manipulate opinions about players. It's just lip service. Of course a lot of teams probably won't buy it, but all we need is for 1 of them to buy it. Perhaps a team that needs a QB, like Chicago.
     
  4. msn

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    There were? I missed this (seriously). I heard they were fielding calls, but I missed where they were actively shopping him. Do you have a link?
     
  5. HillBoy

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    I see your point ima - I really do. You are correct: This is how you have to "play the game". It's just that I don't buy any of this at all. I think it's more PR than real because there really isn't a trade market out there for Carr. The decision to bring Carr back has already been made and this is CYA for the Texans when the DC haters and the VYOFs start screaming at them and show up at Reliant wearing No. 10 jerseys in the fall. The Texans will be able to look straight into the TV cameras and say: "We tried to move David but could not find a realistic trade scenario".
     
  6. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Trading him is not the only way to get rid of him, you know.
     
  7. leroy

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    The question is...What is a "realistic trade scenario"? Is it DC for a 3rd, a 4th, a player? If a player, what kind of player? The Texans aren't so r****ded as to jsut give the guy away for nothing...or next to nothing. There has to be some real value coming back our way to make it feasible. I'm not sure what his value is. What I do know is that any team that wants him has to believe that he is a starter and that he can improve their team. In that sense, the Texans have the upper hand and can be selective about what they get in return. I know everyone's feelings about Carr. I do think that he is still possibly a very good qb. I do not think that the Texans should get rid of him to placate us fans. If you're going to keep him, it has to be because you honestly believe that there are no better options and that you can win with him.
     
  8. Austin70

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    I read today that Corey Dillon may want to retire but his agent says he wants to play for another team. Would he be worth a shot?
     
  9. leroy

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    Only as a cheap backup. He's really lost a lot in the last couple of years. He can still put together a decent game here and there, but not over a full season. There would still need to be another quality back, much like NE had in Maroney, to make it work.
     
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    Justin Blalock just hit 40 reps at combine!!!! I was hoping the Texans would pick him up in the second round but forget about it.
     
  11. gucci888

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    Saw that too, very impressive and a little suprising IMO. Blalock just solidified himself in the mid-1st round. To help guage 40 reps, Mario did 35 last season and the record is 45.
     
  12. HillBoy

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    And therein lies the rub: a "realistic trade scenario" is whatever the Texans decide or want it to be. That's why I'm certain that DC will be back next year because all the Texans have to do to torpedo any trade deal is to simply ask too for him. The fact that you are hearing offers of picks in the 3rd or 4th rounds for him indicates the lukewarm interest in Carr who was a former no. 1 pick. Given their current investment in him, they'd look stupid to settle for so little especially given the fact that they passed on prime QB candidates in the 2006 draft because they "thought" the DC was the right man for the job. You also must consider the fact that there's really no one currently on the roster who can be considered the answer at that position and that the free agent QB pickings are slim as is the upcoming draft. This virtually insures his return in my view.

    The point I'm making is that if David Carr comes back and plays like David Carr then I expect things to get really ugly between the vocal fans who still care and the Texans. Carr represents the least "bad" option for the Texans so that's the one they'll go with in 2007. It's my suggestion that we all grow thicker skins because whether we like it or don't like it, we need to learn to live with it.
     
  13. Achilleus

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    Manuel Ramirez from Texas Tech had 40 reps, as well.
     
  14. Achilleus

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    There showing the lines on NFL Network right now.
     
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    Seth Payne Released according to 790am houston
     
  17. rikesh316

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    Good guy but the move had to be made. Next on list in Kaille Wong, Dominack Williams, Jameel Cook, and possibly Wiegert.
     
  18. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

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    You can add Moulds to the list.
     
  19. rikesh316

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    Looking back at last year's offseason all the money they spent, it was horrible. Putizer, Walter, Moulds, Flanngan, Cook, Cowart, Weaver all had disappointing seasons.
     
  20. updawg

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    hopefully the beginning of a true house cleaning
     

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