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[Official?]Texans Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by leroy, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. No Worries

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    I hear ya but both are great WRs, who not have an injury plagued past ;) I would not mind Adrian Peterson at all, if not for the injuries. As stated above though, the bigger need is both sides of the line, followed by defensive backs.
     
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  2. weslinder

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    This is my view exactly.

    I posted this on another board about three weeks ago.

    My dream draft:

    1st round - LaRon Landry
    2nd round - Joe Staley
    3rd round - Kevin Kolb (if available) or Chris Leak
    3rd round (from David Carr trade) - Antonio Pittman (if available) or Rufus Alexander
    4th round - Marcus Thomas (DT from Florida)
    5th round - Selvin Young (if Pittman wasn't picked earlier) or BPA
    6th and 7th round - BPA


    The only change is that Okoye has really grown on me, so it'd be tempting to take him in the first and best DB available in the third.
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

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    The Texans needs are all over the field, but I submit that we need a playmaker first and foremost. The other needs can be addressed later in the draft and/or via free agency.

    All those players you listed are good and I would be happy to see any one of them with a Texans uniform on next year, but my main point is that there really is no such thing as a "can't miss" prospect.
     
  4. Hey Now!

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    they were actually .500 this year when their leading rusher gained 63 or more yards (the # needed for a 1,000-yard season). finding guys who can control the line of scrimmage or ball hawk in the secondary is far easier than finding franchise RBs. notice, the final 4 this year all start former first round picks in their backfield.
     
  5. No Worries

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    and all four of those backs are "franchise" backs?
     
  6. weslinder

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    What if the best playmaker left when the Texans draft is a Safety?
     
  7. Hey Now!

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    not necessarily; the point is that when it comes to skill positions, cream generally rises to the top - you're better off getting a back in round 1 than you are round 3. grunts like guards, defensive tackles and safeties are generally supporting pieces. teams win far more often with retreads and no names in those roles than they do with leftover RBs.
     
  8. msn

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    So, Terrell Davis and those similar to him are the exception and not the rule?
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    I don't see how that can happen. Plus, I think 'playmaker safety' is a bit of an oxymoron unless you're talking about a Ronnie Lott or a Dennis Smith.

    Again, I don't really think we can screw up this draft. I would be happy with the Texans taking any one of those guys projected to be top ten picks at #8. But if AP is there, I just think you HAVE to take him. Before his freak injury, he was projected as the Heisman Trophy winning #1 overall pick.

    If he falls to #8, he's a no brainer, IMO of course.
     
  10. Achilleus

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    I hope Peterson has the longevity of Emmitt Smith.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    yes. there are no absolutes, of course, and none are being offered here. but 9 of this year's 12 playoff teams started former first round RBs. and of the three that didn't, two [NYG, PHI] started former second round picks.

    more: of the top 20 RBs this year [by yardage], 17 were former day 1 picks; 11 were former 1st round picks. and that ratio is pretty consistent throughout the past several years; hell, decade.

    so, again - yes: you're far more likely to find an LDT in the first round than a terrell davis in the - what was it - sixth? fifth? you certainly don't pass on LDTs under the misguided assumption, "we'll just grab a guy tomorrow. like the denvers did with davis."
     
  12. Hey Now!

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    i agree; it's a pretty rich, deep draft. so they likeihood of a top 5 prospect still being on the board at 8 is good, me thinks.
     
  13. weslinder

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    Kenny Irons would have been a Top 15 pick had he come out last year. He was slowed by injury (but still productive), he'll be available in the second round. Michael Bush will be available in the second round, even though his injury concerns are greater even than Peterson's. Antonio Pittman will be available in the 3rd round. He's definitely a Kubiak-style back and a great workhorse. All of those could be franchise backs, and you're not throwing a 1st round pick after a snake-bitten player.
     
  14. Achilleus

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    I just saw that Peterson is 6'2'' and I think that's as tall as Larry Johnson.

    That is pretty big.
     
  15. Achilleus

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    But if they don't go after Peterson in the first...maybe Darius Walker will be around later...

    [​IMG]
     
  16. ima_drummer2k

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    I would be happy with any one of those guys you listed.......IF AP isn't there at #8 (I still have a weird feeling that Cleveland or the Vikings take him, dont' know why...I just do). AP is better than all of those guys IMO.

    I really don't get this whole "snake-bitten/he's always injured/injury prone" talk. He hurt his ankle in 2005. Not the first RB to ever hurt his ankle, won't be the last. His 2006 injury was a total fluke.
     
  17. rhester

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    I said it based upon watching him play.
    I don't think he has the break away speed Dickerson had.

    Eddie George ran upright, was a little bigger than Peterson, not as quick though.

    I like Peterson at #8 if there is not a sure fire safety, or DL or OL available.

    I think I would still draft the player who will be a pro bowl impact player and that certainly could be Peterson- regardless of position.
     
  18. gunn

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    Way too high for Leak. Right now he's probably 5th round - UDFA. His play was simply terrible at the senior bowl and combining that with measuring in at only 5117, that spells out disaster for Leak. I think right now it's fairly safe to say that he is closer to going undrafted than he is to going in the 3rd, let alone high 3rd.

    With the Texans having so many needs, I think it's going to be really hard to go wrong with the #8 pick.

    I would like to see them aquire Nate Clements through free agency for starters. Then concerning the draft:

    1. Okoye
    2. Merriweather...........

    ...would be a solid start and possibly give the Texans the makings of a very nasty defense.
     
  19. weslinder

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    If Leak's available in the 5th round, and the Texans haven't drafted a QB yet, I think they'd have to take him. I keep going back to the glowing praise that Urban Meyer has heaped on him. He has said that Leak is the smartest QB he's ever coached. When that fraternity includes Alex Smith, that's very high praise.
     
  20. Moe

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    I've thrown this out before, but got zero reaction. Anybody have an opinion on taking Zabranski at the end of the draft, or as an UDFA? He is 6'2", pretty good arm, quite fast for a qb and definatley has some nads.
     

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