Quinn is overrated. Peterson runs a little too upright. Texans really need to come up with a winner this draft. I like AD but am concerned with his running style. Guess if he has the power to get tough yards, he does have the speed to break some runs.
Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville, 6-1 / 317 He is only 19. His upside when he fills out 3-4 years down the road might merit the chance of taking him at 8. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/amobi_okoye.html Okoye may be the ideal nose tackle. He is built low to the ground, and stays low, making it hard for defenders to get under his pads. Combined with his bulk and his strength, and he is immovable on the interior. He is powerful at the point of attack and can push lineman around and clog running lanes on the inside. Okoye’s ability to succeed despite his age is a testament to his intensity. He will not be outworked on the field. He is an excellent run stopper, but Okoye does not project as much of a playmaker at the next level. He can get penetration but lacks the ability to finish plays off. He has had a lot of success at a young age, but he may need more time to mature before he becomes a factor in the NFL. Amobi Okoye is a special player. He has had a lot of success in college, and his entire career will be played as a teenager. His upside at the next level is tremendous. He could be an excellent nose tackle in a few years. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=13143 Height: 6-2 Weight: 287 40 Time: 5.03 01/28/07 - Senior Bowl Prospect Summary - Because of his young age and sparkling personality, Louisville's Amobi Okoye was a consistent focus of the Senior Bowl telecast. For those who have watched him all season long, Okoye's performance this week wasn't a surprise. In fact, I was hoping for a more dominant showing from the former Cardinal as I feel he has the potential to be the top defensive tackle in this draft. His upside was readily apparent on one first quarter rush, however, where he showed the burst off the snap and strong, quick hands to rip past the offensive guard for an easy sack.
The more I hear about Okoye, the more I like him. I wish I had watched for him in the Rutgers game (only Louisville game I watched), but he wasn't on my radar at the time.
This has, for some reason, become the shiek thing to say about Peterson. I've watched some OU games and I've seen him put his head down and pick up extra yards on numerous occasions. Not to mention he's damn hard to tackle even if he doesn't put his head down. Eric Dickerson ran upright and he's in the Hall of Fame.
i actually think it's because he plays for ND that people tend to overrate him. i have no idea how he'll do in the pros, but here are his cumulative #s over his final 25 games (his junior and senior seasons, all under weis): 581/917 (63.3%), 7,345 yards, 69/14. those stats, imo, are pretty hard to overrate, and he's been doing it in a pro-style offense that's supposedly more complex than a typical college system. the INTs really jump out to me - 14 in 25 games? that's the mark of a very smart decision maker, imo. my guess (hope) is that weis will call his buddy crenel and sell quin to him BIG TIME. the texans really need quinn to go in the top 3.
He's really viewed more as a 3-technique now rather than two gap. That is some old info on Okoye as he officially measured in at 6020 - 287. But as for the Texans taking him at #8, let me just say this, I hope he will still be on the board for the Texans to make that decision. I'd be okay with the "New Nigerian Nightmare" lining up alongside Mario. Here you go: Peterson and Okoye are on the board at #8. Who do you take?
i was thinking the exact same thing. the annual "try to blow holes in the game of a top prospect" parade is always fun.
Man, that's a tough one. Oddly enough, I hope one of them is gone so we don't have to make that decision. As long as one of them is still there!
I was actually trying to set up this ridiculous ppp I made on why the Texans should draft Quinn, but it wont load so forget that. In all seriousness, however... Ric said this a couple of minutes ago: " actually think it's because he plays for ND that people tend to underrate him. i have no idea how he'll do in the pros, but here are his cumulative #s over his final 25 games (his junior and senior seasons, all under weis): 581/917 (63.3%), 7,345 yards, 69/14. those stats, imo, are pretty hard to overrate, and he's been doing it in a pro-style offense that's supposedly more complex than a typical college system. the INTs really jump out to me - 14 in 25 games? that's the mark of a very smart decision maker, imo." That about sums up what I think. I don't know how you can deny his stats...stats that held up against the "better opponents" as I had pointed out in that other post.
AP. you never pass up franchise guys [QBs, RBs, DEs, LTs and CBs] for complimentary players [G/Cs, TEs, WRs, DTs, Ss] that are far easier to find/obtain, imo.
We drafted a sexy QB with awesome stats six years ago. It didn't work out so well. I'm in the "not excited about Brady Quinn" camp.
You call Miami and tell them that you are taking Okoye and see if they want to deal up. If they say no, then obviously neither Okoye or Peterson are their man. They must have someone else in mind or they are planning to trade down. If they bite that they want Okoye, they may throw a pick our way to move down one slot, where we get Peterson even cheaper and get an extra pick to boot.
Forgive me if I'm a little burned with drafting quarterbacks high in the first round. I know it doesn't backfire every time, but it does often. In fact, it backfired on the Texans. (and, if I'm not mistaken, Quinn, like Carr, is a quarterback)