texans lose 34-24 but show an improved running game. Will still lose due to a poor secondary. I'm hopeful for an improved pass rush, but i'm pessimistic on that one..
LOL - I NEVER said that, I contended that he could be a 3rd scorer on a team in the NBA if he got his confidence up. Man, at least get it right. DD
You guys are all funny, David Carr apologists. The guy has done nothing in 4+ years to warrant being a starting QB, and yes he has a strong arm, and is a decent athlete. BUT, I am looking for the intangibles that make someone a leader of men, someone who will step into the breach and inspire others. And, I just do NOT see it in David Carr. All great QBs have it, all of them. If you are going to spend a number 1 pick on a guy, he should have it too. However, the NFL is littered with players who were drafted high and never developed into a leader. Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, & yes, David Carr. Look, I get that he has a crappy line, and that play calling has not helped him over the years, however to say that he is blameless in the big scheme of things is simply maddening, David Carr contributes to this team's success and failure, and as the QB and leader of the offense he has to take most of the blame. For instance, if he comes to the line of scrimmage, notices a Blitz, he should CHECK to another play, but he got that ability TAKEN away last year....come on.....are you kidding me? Yes, Gary Kubiak resurrected Jake Plummer's career, but the resurrected Plummer is a decent option, but not an elite one, not a QB worthy of being THE NUMBER 1 pick. Dom Capers and Charley Casserly are indeed the biggest culprits, but I don't agree that exonerates the players. The next time I see David Carr lead a team, actually LEAD a team, will be the first. And yes, I know it is my opinion, I am just not going to be shouted down by a bunch of homers. I have 4 years of imperical evidence, you guys have squat. I will freely admit I am wrong if Carr becomes even a decent QB, will you? DD
So you are saying that Kerry Collins has 2 up games and then 2 down ones, right? When does David Carr get to the UP games portion of his career? DD PS. Calling someone names is a bit over the top, you think you are right, and I think I am right, big deal, it doesn't make you right or wrong, we are just exchanging opinions.
Boki Nachbar couldn't lead anybody and you thought he was the next Peja Stojakovich. Look, if you had actual informed criticisms then people would agree with you about Carr's faults. But you just keep throwing out stuff about leadership and inspiration, as if those are the most important factors in Carr's struggle. If they were then we Bucky Richardson and Major Applewhite would be starting QB's. No one is saying Carr is the next Peyton Manning. Well, maybe if you were on this side of the argument there would be.
By the way, no one who disagrees with you, Dada, is saying that Carr is definitely going to be great. You are the one who is saying he definitely sucks and has no chance in the league. You're the one taking the extreme, mindless "homerish" position.
For me it's going to be like watching the Stros play the Cards. I am rooting for the good guys but the part of me that just simply loves baseball I enjoy watching Pujols. I will never wish any team to beat the Texans, ever. But, I enjoy watching P. Manning. It's going to be a good game. I can't wait.
Right about what?? I was merely stating that you say you are just right or bring up how old you are but not proving anything along the way. I find it strange that you didn't even try to counter anything Ric said because you know how accurate his post is and the fact that he completely shredded your argument. We are not just stupid homers...none of us said that Carr is going to be some pro-bowl quarterback but you try to call him disgusting things like aka Joey Harrington or whatever. Also, this is a thread about the game... its highly irritating when you simply bash Carr and say the most idiotic things to back up the bashing.
and that is because it is a made-up quality; as such, you’ll spend the rest of your life looking for it. let me ask you something: why does david carr have to be a “great” qb? because it requires a great qb to win in the nfl? here are some of the qbs who have led their team to the SB since 1990: jeff hostetler; mark rypien; neil o’donnell; stan humphries; chris chandler; trent dilfer; kerry collins; brad Johnson; and rich gannon. and canton’s not exactly clearing space for jake delhomme or matt hasselback. so of the last 22 “unique” qbs to start a SB, 11 were nowhere near great. that’s half. so why does david carr have to be great? because it gives you a standard to unfairly hold him to, which in turn gives you ample fodder to b**** about him? do you want to know the only person who ever says that carr is blameless? you whenever you falsely accuse others of blindly following him off the cliff. if anyone is definitively excusing david carr, then yes, that person is a moron. but most are not; we’re merely rational enough to realize the organization left him for dead and that maybe – just maybe – a new, offensive-minded regime and better talent could help him right his ship. the first returns looked promising; you’d know this, but you were too busy being wow’ed by vy’s 7 awe-inspiring plays against the jets… which ended in an interception, which you’ll excuse because, you know, he leads men and all. as a self-professed vy fan, maybe you shouldn’t quibble with how much a qb can handle mentally, huh? good coaches maximize a player’s strengths. since you were probably in your 50s at the time, i know you’ll remember chuck knoll’s famous swipe at bradshaw; he couldn’t spell “cat” if you spotted him the c and the t…? yeah, that mensa member won 4 SBs. football smarts, not book smarts, is the key “mental” requirement for a qb. why is his draft status relevant? and if your answer doesn’t contain the words, “it’s” and “not” then please conserve your energy and skip posting a response because you will be wrong. if draft status was in any way relevant, jay feeley would be starting because, for a fifth round pick, he’s been pretty good. no, you have four years of making **** up, like trying to assign make-believe intangibles to players because you apparently want to rival joe theismann in your ability to recognize talent.
Welcome to my IGNORE list. MAJOR EDIT: Here you go, since you love him so much: http://www.peytonmanning.com/Kids/AskPeyton.htm . Thanks and goodbye. Damn, I couldn't find www.ilovepeytonmanning.com for you... would you forgive me??? Now go to where you belong: http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/
That was noted Cowboy cokehead Hollywood Henderson, before Super Bowl XIII. Bradshaw won the SB MVP 2 days later.
I never said he would LEAD any team, just that he could be a complimentary piece to a team, he lacked confidence and never made it, I was wrong about Boki.....however there are a lot more instances where I was proven right. Yao Ming - Wanted him all along Astros out of it - Sadly right on the money about team chemistry Steve Francis - said he would never get it, I think we all agree with that. I am just not afraid to take a stand and put an opinion out there, am I wrong sometimes....YOU BET ! However, I am right more often than not. I am not impressed with David Carr, never have been, but I freely admit all his problems are NOT his fault, but that does not change the player he is today, maybe he is a wasted opportunity and will never develop, maybe he will under good coaching. Time will tell. No doubt, it is one of the intangibles that make a great QB. There are great leaders that never developed into great QBs, you cited 2 good examples. I just don't see that Carr has it, after 4 years, I have yet to see him take charge. He just doesn't command respect...imho. DD
You also said LenDale White would be better than Reggie Bush. Yes everyone can be wrong but maybe it's the extremeness of your positions that is the problem. I don't see any reason to think Carr doesn't command respect. I have not heard any such criticism from his teammates (unlike, say, for Joey Harrington). In fact I think his scouting report on Scouts, Inc. specifically mentioned that he DOES command respect. Carr stays in the pocket and is not scared to get hit. He works hard. For the MOST part he does not get frustrated with how bad his teammates are. I believe this team does respect him.
but.... but..... he doesn't have "IT," that magical whatchmacallit EVERY great qb has that none of them really actually have but we pretend they do to give people who have no idea what they're talking about something to talk about...... right??? right?????? unless good coaching can help him find "IT".........?
