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[Official] Texans 2022 Draft thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. RHU525

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    Never said that either. He was much better as the season went on. Maybe he's the diamondn the rough. I was only giving examples for those who thought all QBs were that bad. I've never seen a qb which such huge swings. He was either great or absolutely terrible. So I have no idea what to expect from him.
     
  2. cmoak1982

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    No you didn’t. You hate on the kid and immediately want him replaced when he had games as good as Watsons rookie season.
     
  3. hlmbasketball

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    We just need to wait until the season start and see how he does. We all know how good DW4 played and why he didn't win big here but it's over.

    I don't think Mills is or will ever be a top quarterback, it's just my opinion. However there was a sector of fans who felt Cody Carlson was going to succeed after Moon left and we know how that turned out. Mills will get his chance this season.... so we have to wait and see.

    If he succeeds great, if not, many of us won't be surprised.
     
  4. cmoak1982

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    Bottom line is if you’re a real fan of Houston, you want Mills to succeed.
    He showed flashes. Arm talent is legit, mobility is legit, size is legit.
    His processing advanced very quickly.
    It’s not likely that he’s a superstar, but that’s the same for most young QBs. At least he’s shown something.

    Same thing was said about Watson, he was very good. Still hasn’t cracked the elite level yet. He still might, but doubtful with the Browns
     
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    I sure hope Mills succeeds, but I'm just a little more realistic. Chances are he's gonna be a serviceable bridge but not the answer. Hope I'm wrong.
     
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    Realistic isn’t the same as pessimism.
    Mills flashed things that only a handful of QBs in the league can do last season.
     
  7. RHU525

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    He sure did. He made amazing throws in the Pats game. But then he also flashed such bad performances that only a handful of QBs have ever been also. So I'm tempering my enthusiasm. Let's see what he does in year 2.
     
  8. cmoak1982

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    Did you watch the last 6 games?
    You keep bringing up the Pats game but that wasn’t even his best game
     
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  9. TEXNIFICENT

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    Why does it always go there?

    SMDH.
     
  10. whag00

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    It's not even about the throws. It's that as a rookie he was advanced in his decision making, pre snap reads, recognizing the blitz, etc. I look forward to seeing what he does after getting QB1 reps in ota, training camp, preseason.
     
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    It goes there because we have a small group of people that push it.
    It shouldn’t matter, but to some it does.
    I get tired of people pushing a QB because of their color. So I’m going to say something.


    And yes, I don’t help by calling it out. But I’m not going to let it go unchecked. Or you have the bigots that control the rhetoric.
     
  12. TEXNIFICENT

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    No offense bro, but it’s funny to read some posters who say that Watson isn’t elite, insinuate that the Rookie Mills was just as good and then they slam Caserio because he didn’t get 10 (1st) rounders for Watson.

    At the end of the day the Browns believed he was elite and put their money & draft picks where their mouth is. The Texans are justified in letting him go because his idiotic/ weird off the field life kept him from doing his job for a year. The Texans are more than justified in moving on. They could’ve made a moral statement and cut the guy but Caserio chose wait & take the (3) 1st Rounders and turned the page.( It is what it is)

    If Caserio doesn’t like any of the QBs this year, in my opinion he should give Mills shot ( at worst they get the 1st pick next year and at best he’s the guy) , trade back and build up the trenches on both sides of the ball. If Mills fails, then get his ass out of there and take another swing in the 2023 draft, I don’t care if he’s black, white, or polka dot.
     
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    I don’t disagree with any of what you said.

    I might have a different standard for elite than others. Top 10 out of 32 isn’t elite imo.
    Watson early on was special imo, the improvisational skills were special and the throws off script were awesome.
    I don’t think he made enough strides processing and with the finer details of QB play until his last season, but it didn’t lead to wins. Some of his gaudy numbers were aided by soft defenses.
    That isn’t to take away from his skill set. He’s a prototype for a new age QB. Rodgers-lite.
    That still doesn’t mean he’s in the elite crowd with the top 3-5 guys.
    Add that with being paid tops in the league prematurely, it didn’t fit with the timeline of the Texans. The return for a player with his combined skillset and age wasn’t enough. Even with him being a terrible person.

    Mills showed a lot of similar skills as a rookie. If he progresses as much as he did his first year he could be a very good starter. Elite? Probably not. But as a Texan fan, I hope he does become better than Watson and actually lead this team to playoff success.
     
  14. TEXNIFICENT

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    Nothing wrong with that
     
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    I for one hope he succeeds or at least have a good season. He did show arm talent but mobility, No! He ran the 40 the same time as DW4 but he's stiff, no wiggle. His reads did get better as the year went on. Let's see
     
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    He’s not a runner like Watson, but he throws very well on the run and made tons of plays outside the pocket. Plenty of wiggle.
     
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    Every other throw is on the run or off platform.
    Just because he doesn’t run doesn’t mean he can’t.
     
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  18. hlmbasketball

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    I don't think people are pushing a rhetoric either way. Let's face it, most Black QBs are dual-threat, which is exciting and most white QBs are pocket passers, which is less than exciting....ITS REALITY!

    People pay money to be entertained, winning helps but if you can do both.....that's what people want
     
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    He does not escape the pocket
     
  20. cmoak1982

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    You realize this isn’t even remotely true right?
    Allen, Burrow, Rodgers, Carr, Tannehill, Baker, Lawrence, Wilson, Herbert, Jones, Darnold, Lock, Heinicke, Wentz are all running QBs.

    What you just said is the reason I push back, you’re typecasting players and are so narrow minded that it’s ridiculous.

    It’s not even remotely true. Hell there’s literally only one QB that’s a better runner than Allen and that’s Lamar.
     

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