This movie will suck. Mark my words, you will all be disappointed. I'm not a Spidey fan, but after seeing the preview I don't see how you guys even hold out hope that the movie will be good.
Somehow, I just don't think the director of Spider Man said "My ego can't handle Norman Osborne's hairline. Change it!" Unlike a comic book, there are logistical challenges to the visual aspect of a movie. If the director spent all his time making sure everything looked exactly like the comic, every other aspect of the movie would probably suck hard. Not to mention, some things just don't translate well from one medium to another. Wolverine's outfit may look cool in the comic, but he'd look like a flaming dandy if they made the movie costume exactly the same.
Simple solution: go with animation. I partially agree with you on the costumes, but Spidey and the Goblin wouldn't look half as cooky as Wolverine. Everything would be better if the film were completely animated(or completely CGI). Characters would look and act more like they should. ANY stunt could be pulled off(at a fraction of the price) and the "silliness" of the costumes would be moot. The worst that could possibly happen would be a musical number at Aunt May and Doc Ock's wedding.
Animated, though, would probably flop ten times worse than this film could. But I know what you mean, Anti, I was just messing with you. HOWEVER, to be honest, I don't think the film should be made to the 'hardcore' fans. Its the 'hardcore' fans that usually cause the comic industry to suffer. They are the ones who b**** and moan at any change to a character - no matter if its a temporary one for purposes of a storyline - and call for the heads of the people working on it. All the while the book gets more and more stale, sales drop, and money dries up. Grant Morrison mentions this in the New X-Men TPB. It has his proposal to Marvel about what he wants to do with the book, back when they were considering hiring him for it. Basically, he says just that - I'm not going to try and make the fanboys happy. Those hardcore fans just don't understand change, or accept it. To tide them over, you'd have to go animated or have Wolverine prance around in his tights or whatever. Maybe they'd go see it, but then it would become pretty clear that they are not quite the financial force you might think. I don't care if they have to change a few things here in there, as long as its good. (Like LOTR for example). But by good, I don't mean 'be faithful to the original story'. Because you are dealing with a different medium, and that's not possible.
Checked it out this afternoon and I really liked it. They really did a good job keeping the feel of the old Spiderman but I wish they had a good theme song to go with it. Willem Defoe is excellent.
I liked it pretty well. Some of it was a bit corny, and I really didn't like Willem Defoe's costume. Also, it kind of pissed me off that the web slinging mechanism was a part of Peter Parker's body in this movie, while in the original it was a mechanism that he invented and built himself.
I saw a preview thing on E last night and they were talking about how they considered Freddie Prinze Jr. for the Spiderman role. Talk about potential disaster!
It got me all excited. Honestly, when it comes to superhero movies, I try not to get my hopes up too much anymore. They can be done very well (Batman) or they can be total crap (uhh...any non-Michael Keaton Batman). But I like the idea, and I hope it is done well. One year is a long time to wait for a movie that might suck, however, so I probably won't think about it much.
I saw it and I expected it to suck. It did not suck! They updated it a bit. If you think about it, spinning his own web sort of made sense in their context. I guess to make it more realistic they could have made him shoot it out of his a$$. If the goblin moved his arms just a wee bit more when he talked he would have looked like a villain from The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. My only real complaint.
You know what would have worked with the Goblin? I think since they decided to change somethings to make the movie work, why not make it that Defoe changed into the Goblin, like he just sorta morphs. If you saw the Hulk teaser then you know it's possible to do. Do instead of a helmet, or trying to make a mask like the one in the comic book, they could use makeup. That way we could see Defoe's eyes and he could use his mouth. I think it would have been a very good compromise. He could wear yellow contacts and fake teeth. I mean, after seeing what they did in Lord of the Rings, I think it's very possible to make his face look like the mask that the GG wears in the comic book.
Well, I saw the flick this afternoon and liked it about as much as I expected to. I've never read a Spider-Man comic book in my life, so I can't complain about any differences between the books and the movie, but there were a couple of things that I thought were not so hot in the flick that I do know were different from the books (and may well have been better had they followed the book). SPOILER ALERT!!!!! The fact that they set up the whole "choice" at the end but didn't have a pay-off for it (Spidey didn't have to make a choice. He fairly easily chose both, in essence) was a bit of a cop-out to me. End spoiler!!!!!!!!!!! And some of the CGI was just bad. It didn't really detract from the movie that much, though. At least not to me. There were also a lot of good things. McGuire is a good Peter Parker. DaFoe is excellent. JK Simmons was also very good. The story was good overall and I never felt the picture dragged. I could talk about all the technical things I liked, too, but I'll spare everyone from that. All in all, I would recommend the movie.
I take back everything I previously said regarding this movie. IT KICKS ASS!!! --SPOILER ALERT-- The Good -Looks like it was made for the hardcore fan. Mendell Stromm gets a cameo and there's even a reference to Curt Connors! -The CGI and choreography are perfect. For some reason, it looked fake in the trailers, but on the big screen it looks great. Spidey moves exactly how he's supposed to move and his spider-sense's magnificence is shown in its full glory(the scene where Pete examines Flash Thompson's punch is classic!). - Betty Brant's hair: she has few lines and her name is never mentioned, but you can tell instantly who she is by her hairstyle(gee, I guess that maybe my nitpicking on the Osborn's hair wasn't so out of whack afterall). - J. Jonah Jameson is portrayed PEFECTLY!!! He really steals the show and should have had a little more screen time squeezed in. - The Thanksgiving dinner scene was classic. The interaction between all of Spidey's supporting cast brought back so many memories and the interaction between Aunt May and Norman is priceless. The Bad - I'm still not sold on Maguire or Dunst as Peter and MJ. Maguire played teenage Parker perfectly, but his college-years persona just doesn't seem right for some reason... Dunst's MJ is good off and on, maybe it's just the way the character was written. - Where are Aunt May's famous wheat cakes?! - MJ never delivers her classic line: "Tiger, you just hit the jackpot." - Betty Brant and Joe Robertson have like one line each. They're major figures in Peter's life(especially Robbie) and should have been portrayed as such. - Where were Spidey's jokes? The "let mommie and daddy talk" was hillarious, but Spider-Man should have been running his mouth a mile a minute. - NOT ENOUGH JAMESON!!! The Ugly - Green Goblin's costume: B-Ball Freak is dead-on with the Power Ranger villain analogy... His glider and pumpkin bombs were great, but the Mr. Roboto get-up should have been ditched in favor of the purple and green duds with purse accessory. -The Ending: I don't get it. MJ's confession of her love for Peter seems forced and out of place(she ignores him for all but ten minutes of the entire film, afterall) and ga-ga Pete turns her down. WTF?! I blame this on the lack of time they had for character development(and the obvious slew of sequels to follow). Man, was I ever wrong about Raimi and crew. They did their homework. Superman now has company at the top of the comic book movie mountain.
Did anybody else notice that the Green Goblin's shoes were Nikes? Talk about clever product placement.
-Where were Spidey's jokes? The "let mommie and daddy talk" was hillarious, but Spider-Man should have been running his mouth a mile a minute. That's my only complaint about Parker's personality in the movie. They should have had him talking more. This movie kicked ass!!!! The cgi was NOT bad at all, they blended it in very nice with the film. My major complaint was the Green Goblin and his "Power Ranger" movements. Over all, enough to please the hardcore spidey fans.
I agree, that is one of the most important character aspects about Spidey. I love all the sarcasm he uses in the comic books and I hope they address the issue for the next two films. I don't think they will though, I mean, have you ever heard Tobey Maguire tell a joke? If you ever watch the episode of SNL he hosted, you can tell he isn't that comfortable with comedy.
i didnt like the matrix copycat scenes. but the rest of the movie was good. the best part was asking out this girl and she said yes and i was pretty happy the rest of the movie.
