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Official "Should we be worried about Foster" thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Hey Now!, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

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    I read somewhere that Leach was on the field for about a third of our running plays last year. Also, Leach wasn't on the team a few weeks ago when Foster busted out 155 yards and a TD against the Steelers.

    Clearly, it's something other than just Leach.
     
  2. conundrum

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    We just played a team with one of the top 3 rushing defenses for nearly the last 5 years. We are starting jacoby jones and kevin walter right now. Give me a break. Teams are not worried about getting beat down field, they are game planning for foster.
     
  3. weslinder

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    Foster was very good against Oakland. He didn't do much on run plays because Smith, Briesel, and Myers were manhandled by Seymour, Kelly, and Henderson, but he did his job well. Hell, it was a career-best receiving game for him.

    He was a little off yesterday. But he still got 101 combined yards. If you're worried about a guy who does above average on his worst days, your worry is misplaced.
     
  4. javal_lon

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    We should be more worried about his contract situation.... DD says Tate is more than adequate... DD chews his pain killers with Vodka though I hear...sup DD!!!!
     
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  5. Joe Joe

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    Tate is very good at running the ball. I would not make much of him running better than Foster in a game. Foster's drops are huge as that is where he separates himself.
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

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    but we also had Andre, and thus the ravens couldnt stack the box as much.
     
  7. Ziggy

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    Again, his production isn't the issue, its the way he looks out there on the field that makes you wonder if he'll regain those elite numbers ago. I think he will.
     
  8. Nick

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    Sure, he busted out that long run which contributed to a lot of his yards, but he had several plays where he just got stood up at the line... much like he has had the last two games. You didn't see much of that at all last year... nearly every carry was yielding 4-5 yards with regularity.

    If he doesn't break the long run, he's getting very minimal push at the line. There's no in between right now. That's where Leach makes a difference. Also, don't underestimate a third of all running plays... that's enough to be the difference between "elite" running team and mediocre running team.
     
  9. thejav

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    Nothing wrong with foster.. just need aj back to spread the defence and he will be back running for 100+ yards..
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    He's carried the ball 37 times the past two weeks; 27 of those rushes have gone for 3 or fewer yards. He has no TDs. Baltmiore has a very good rush defense (#2 overall); Oakland does not (#22).

    I recognize the team as a whole misses Andre Johnson. But Foster doesn't look right. Last year, he was a legitimate threat every time he touched the ball; even in his lone preseason game this year, he looked that way. Now? He looks ordinary.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Never said any such thing, but do like Vodka !

    DD
     
  12. JeopardE

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    I don't remember seeing James Casey on the field yesterday. I remember he got injured during the Oakland game, and after he got injured the running game basically went to crap. I think Arian will be fine once he gets his FB back.

    The bigger deal, of course, was not being able to move the chains effectively with no WR capable of consistently getting any separation from defenders. At this point I feel like WR might be our #1 draft need next year.
     
  13. Joe Joe

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    Foster had seven games that he didn't average 4 yards a carry last season. Foster absolutely destroyed some teams last year. Other times, teams took him out of game by stacking box.

    Foster has to make teams pay in the passing game when they stack the line.
     
  14. javal_lon

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    He cant throw to himself.. But for real, I hope its swing passes and screens not these lil check down passes....
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    I would credit our defense more than any opponents'. We were playing catch-up in almost every one of those games.
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    He can catch the ball though and then run for a lot.
     
  17. Joe Joe

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    Our defense played a big part for sure in limiting Foster's number of plays, but playing catch up should not dramatically limit a players ypc. Our defense was on the field a lot in those games because the Texans could not run early.

    Here is how Foster ran in the 7 less than 4 ypc games while Houston stayed within two possessions:
    Titans, 4 carries, 0 of 4 or more
    Philly, 22 carries, 7 of 4 or more.
    Jets, 15 carries, 6 for 4 or more
    Jags, 15 carries, 5 for 4 or more
    KC, 18 carries, 7 of 4 or more
    NYG, 4 carries, 0 for 4 or more
    Wash, 12, 6 for 4 or more

    These teams went to take out Foster by either stacking line or having a NG that could limit cutback lanes or flat out disrupt a lot of plays. Without Foster picking up yards, the Texans were toast as the weak defense was further exposed.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Foster had a quad injury for the last game. Not sure how much that affected him.

    He seems to be doing great as a receiver though.
     
  19. javal_lon

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    Agreed, he looked great out the backfield... This is why a designed swing pass would be dangerous against teams that stuff the box... Most times the linebacker would be covering him... You cant tell me , he wouldnt make him miss and get big yardage ... Maybe twice a half would be good to keep the defense honest ... Even with Andre there it would be a hit or miss kind of play....Gotta utilitize that aspect of his skills
     
  20. RedRedemption

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    Here's the thing with Foster:
    Foster, after breaking the line of scrimmage, can make defenders miss. If its one-on-one he can literally beat anybody. Coming off an outside running route is his most deadliest.

    With Tate:
    He has the power to break through a tackle or arm or two. Coupled with his agility and sidestepping skill, he can do very well when given a chance to run up the middle with a decent hole.

    Neither can play their best when the entire defense is concentrated on the run game.
     

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