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[OFFICIAL] [ROBERT REICH] Liz Cheney for President 2024 Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jun 13, 2022.

  1. ROXRAN

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    I have to go and watch a preseason game tonight, also need to grab dinner but I enjoyed the debate and discussion
    Have a good night
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    So if a private text message of cop shows that hates Trump he shouldn't pull over any vehicles or stop and search any citizens that have Trump paraphernalia on them right?

    Again, show me the actual actions and paper trial of biased actions taken that were improper.
     
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    Agreed. There was evidence that showed he might have a conflict of interest.

    We haven't seen that in this case.
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    It’s about trust.,.One doctor is a Trump supporter the other is not who do you choose? Naturally you choose whoever is most qualified but your brain and your bias says to choose the other guy all things give an equal. Having a bias is more likely to cause determination errors and that’s a fact

    It’s not so much what were the actual actions because investigations can be complex and based on subjective data
     
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    Cognitive or psychological bias is the tendency to make decisions or take action in an unknowingly irrational way. It can harm not only your decision making, but also your judgment, values, and social interactions.
     
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    Okay so a cop who voted for Trump and has texted a family member how he hates Biden should never be allowed to pull over a vehicle that has a Biden bumper sticker. Got it.
     
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    Also any officer who has evidence of private messages speaking Ill of BLM or Black activism should be disqualified from policing any citizens that are Black.

    Any officer that has private messages complaining about Mexican migrants should be disqualified from pulling over any vehicles occupied by ethnically Latino looking people.
     
  8. ROXRAN

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    So if a police officer sends texts that are anti-black live matter, How would this affect your trust as a police officer in the black community?

    What’s the likelihood that police officer might lose his job just on evidence of the texts regardless of any provable action?
     
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    I have to actually answer this question?

    Try to figure that one out yourself.
     
  10. ROXRAN

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    Exactly
     
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    But in this case it isn't even the same officer. It is a different officer six years later, but because the other officer six years ago sent the text about BLM no officers should be trusted.

    Peter S. Isn't involved here.

    Either you have evidence these agents were biased or you don't.
     
  12. ROXRAN

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    It’s on the FBI to be transparent especially when there is unrestrained bias ..And it’s not just him it’s also Lisa Page …attorney 6 years ago so all of a sudden we are to believe that these two are out of the picture and everything is fine? I don’t buy it
    Two influential agents that cheated and lied to their spouses. ..Why would the lying and cheating have stopped there and if there’s one and then there was two there could easily be more . I can’t trust an FBI that has explicit open bias and has proven a willingness to lie and cheat at least to their own spouses ….Was it six years ago? Maybe but that wasn’t an eternity ..Trump is still in the picture. I can’t trust an FBI that trots out these two people regardless of it being six years ago because that shows me there’s something wrong systemically with the department of justice.
     
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    Them cheating on their spouses has nothing to do with their job.

    Blaming every FBI agent for what two people did years ago isn't a defense for anything.

    Again, I'm willing to look at any evidence that the raid on Mar-a-Lago was a political spectacle if it is presented.

    But all that I'm seeing here is that people six years ago did something wrong and were removed from an investigation (which shows that the system was working) that means the FBI can never make another investigation of anyone in politics again.

    1. The head of the DOJ has earned a solid and cautious reputation.

    2. The judge judge and head of the FBI have reasons to be biased in Trump's favor.

    3. There is no evidence of wrong doing by the DOJ/FBI related to the Mar-a-Lago raid.

    Yet somehow something that happened six years ago is supposed to make us ignore all of the evidence?

    Trump isn't even denying he had the documents.
     
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    Clicked on thread expecting to read up some dirt on Liz Cheney. But no mention of her in the last two pages here. SAD.
     
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    It has to do with their character …if you’re willing to cheat and lie to your very own partner and spouse then that is telling in itself- Again the DOJ needs to be held to a higher standard and given the history of the DOJ and it’s failings against Trump, people are going to be suspicious Of any investigations and whether explicit bias is at play again
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/19/us/vincent-alabama-police-dept/index.html
    we see first hand how texts of bias hurts trust…there may be no evidence beyond these texts but no one is arguing that it’s only one guy or that where is the actual proof of any compromised action.
    I’m not saying let’s abolish the FBI. The problem is systemic political bias from texts that damages trust.
    I suggest there is a need for critical anti-bias theory training..it’s ok to have personal views or political beliefs but there is a responsibility to be aware of how such behavior and conduct erodes trust and affects others that may feel they are targeted unfairly
    Conduct and behavior and having awareness matters
     
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    It speaks to their character in their personal lives. It doesn't mean they can't be solid FBI agents.
     
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    Brother, you wouldn't be saying "thanks for your service" to 90% of service members if you cared about their personal lives and their infidelity.
     
  20. ROXRAN

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    Probably true unfortunately, part of human nature I suppose
     

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