Based on what a friend of mine said...and I do recall hearing at one time or another....out of all the Jedis, Mace Windu was the best with a lightsaber where Yoda was the best in using the force... which makes sense why Mace had the Emperor beat and Yoda failed. And according to the Clone Wars, Mace supposedly kicked the crap out of General Grievous (the feared Jedi killer), which is why Grievous A) had a cough in the movie cause his lungs were crushed and B) had been reduced to a fleeing coward. So Mace is definitely legit w/ a saber. So no, I don't think the Emperor was toying with Mace at all...the Emperor's not THAT powerful...maybe in manipulating the force and people's feelings/emotions..but w/ a lightsaber, I'd have to say Samuel L holds the edge. But...once beat and after Anakin arrived, he did put on a helpless act to be sure...again he's a master of manipulation. And he knew the act would confuse Anakin (on who's good and who's not) and essentially draw him to his side.
i dont like the way vader screams nooo!!! at the end. it made it look like a frankenstein thing. also when yoda says they must destroy the sith I would of preferred if yoda faced anakin and obi-wan face the emperor. even though the emperor would of easily handled obi-wan. same thing for yoda, easily handle anakin. then we would have yoda and the emperor go for it. palpatine doesnt have an apprentice and since all the jedi are dead he can't get one.
I can't believe Shrek 2 is that high up. This movie is tons better with a fanbase that crosses generations. If parents don't mind their children watching the gory scenes, then it's chances of passing Titanic is high.
this movie was good. but...SPOILERS (I GUESS) how do they rationalize the birth of twins and then her dying? doesn't leiah later ask luke what their mother was like, and he remembers her being beautiful or something? also...anakin's logic seems somewhat irrational when palpatine kills...uh, samuel jackson -- first, palpatine deserves a trial for what he did...then samuel jackson's character gets murdered and anakin feels no wrongful action was done??? what about...a trial for treason? just seems very illogical, especially for such a key sequence in the movie. lastly...the movie portrays obi-wan as a p***y when fighting the sith lord at the beginning, but later he can hold his own against anakin (who defeated the same sith lord that obi-wan sucked ass against)...it should have shown him stronger from the get go.
yea I thought about that. anakin can kill count. obi-wan cannot. but one has to realize that obi-wan is the master and trained anakin. obi-wan has the experience while anakin is the more powerful. at least obi-wan didnt get his hand sliced by dooku.
Some spoilers: This is one of the only things that I had a problem with. Anakin finds out that Palpatine is a Sith lord, and tells the council immediately. He then goes to Palpatine's chambers to find Windu about to finish him off. When it looks like Windu is about to kill Palpatine, Anakin yells, "I need him!", and stops Windu by cutting his hands off. Palpatine finishes Windu off, and then Anakin exclaims, "What have I done?" This sequence leads me to believe that Anakin saved Palpatine almost solely for selfish reasons (to save his wife). It seems like he realizes that he has been tricked, but still supports Palpatine, mainly to save Padme. When Anakin talks to Padme, he tells her that he witnessed the council trying to overthrow and assassinate Palpatine, and that he stayed loyal to the chancellor. Given the fact that he told the council that the chancellor was a Sith Lord, I felt that Anakin was either lying when he told Padme that story, or that he had been convinced by Palpatine that that's what happened. He was selfish, and he wanted more power. However, I don't really buy the theory that he was doing what he thought was best for the Republic. He might have been convinced of that after the fact, but the things he said in the heat of the moment makes me think that he was tricked, and then rationalized what he did afterwards. Anakin alerting the council about Palpatine's true allignment indicates that he still had some loyalty towards the Jedi, and at that time he did not seem to buy Palpatine's spiel about the Sith being good for the Republic. In my book, Anakin turned for selfish reasons, not for the good of the republic. If someone else has thoughts on this, I'd love to hear them.
Lol, for a second there I was like "Kill Count? What power is that?" SPOILERS! That is something I definitely found annoying. Fine, Anakin is the more powerful Jedi. I can accept that. But in the last two movies Obi seems like a complete chump. Always cracking stupid jokes and messing up, with Anakin saving him. It just makes that chasm a bit too great. Obi seems to redeem himself in the second half of the film, however. I guess Anakin didn't have the patience and had too much confidence. Obi waited and in the end won the fight with patience and arguably "tactics"... for him he had to save the galaxy by destroying the new Sith lord, whereas Anakin already thought he was there in many ways. I also agree that Anakin turned for selfish reasons... though I don't think it's as negative as the word selfish makes out, he wanted to save the love of his life. This being the start point which led him to the dark side, everything else is really a mind game. Once you start to turn, or turn, you don't think straight anymore. I'm guessing Anakin believed some of his lies, while at other times he was doubting himself (some of his goodness still being in him). Other times he blatantly lied to keep Padme happy, he knew he had to lie to her to save her life.
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that worldwide chart is weird. troy is way up there, the day after tomorrow is #33 all-time (i guess b/c you get to see the U.S. get destroyed?), pirates of the caribbean is way up there, and independence day is way up there at 11 (i guess b/c you get to see the U.S. get destroyed?). and titanic is just disgusting. even though i already knew the figure, seeing 1.8 billion (yeah, billion) against everything else is just amazing.
why is it weird? Troy and the pirates of the caribbean and Independance day were really hyped here. i do not think people watch a movie because the U.S. is destroyed. sorry most europeans do not hate the U.S.(altough some people think they do(chat with nomar during game 4)). Independance day was that popular in europe because it was one of the first movies (in a while) with aliens, and i think the x-files were also very popular in that time. i cannot explain the day after tomorow. It was a bad movie, and i do not know why it was popular all over the world. I did not think it was that popular in the netherlands, but then again the netherlands is not a big country. so it is possible that other country contributed to the popularity of the movie
Troy was massive here (UK) for a while! Epic, big stars... I thought the same if not bigger would be the case in the US. I figured any Brad Pitt movie would do well. I actually liked it, even though I can see why a critic wouldn't. Entertaining, not good. Does anyone know how many Jedi survived? Or were Obi wan and Yoda the only two?
sorry arno don't think so - when did you send it? ah ok just looked got it in my junk mail. thanks! will email you right now - sorry about the thread let's get back to the Sith!!!
The reason that Troy and some other recent movies are so high on the list is because the worldwide market has really emerged in the past 10 years. The top 50 is dominated by movies from the late '90s and '00s. The foreign markets have never made as much money as they do now. These days, the overseas markets will usually match or even surpass the domestic grosses. And every year they just keep expanding, with more screens in more countries. And inflation certainly doesn't hurt either.
Not all the Jedi were killed during "Operation 66". But they were hunted down and killed by Vader in the intervening years. Yoda and Obi wan are the only ones that survived till the Original Trilogy.
Saw it last night. Purty movie with some good action sequences. Easily the best of the prequels, but I wouldn't say it was a great movie. ****Spoilers I guess**** The turn, which is supposed to be what the whole of the prequels was to lead up to, was weak. Sidious's dialouges to Anakin weren't in the least compelling or convincing imo. Padme dying because she was sad. Anakin buring up looked stoopid. Pretty sad to see some cool acting(Obi-wans speech) balanced out by that crap. Don't even see how he survives as much as he did with the rate he was being burnt. Yes, the Frankenstein walk followed by the no was extremely sucky. The stuff I liked the most ... as stated, I liked the action sequences. The betrayal of the clones(even though you knew it was going to happen) was more shocking and believable than the turn. I thought it was cool how one of them gave Obi-wan his saber back and then moments later gave the order to shoot him down. The clones looked extremely weird and distracting whenever they had the helmets off though. The preview for the lion the witch and the wardrobe was nice. Obi-Wan rocked ... and, well, that's pretty much it.
