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[Official] Rays @ Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. rockets94-95

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    Yes. Braves beat us head to head in 2 out of 3.
     
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  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    If my counting is correct, tonight was the 9th time Pressly entered with a 2 run lead. Tonight was the 2nd game he gave up a run.
     
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    I don't think he's Kelly Jansen shaky however. THAT I would be worried about. It's going to be Atlanta's downfall ultimately.
     
  4. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
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    Even a broken "just like clockwork" is right two times a...season.
     
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  5. Yordan The Great

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    Poll taken by Crawfishboxes website asking who should be left off the post season roster in terms of pitchers:

    Maton led overwhelmingly 34% of the vote, no one had more than 16% (Smith, Garcia). Urquidy, Brown, Abreu all received 10% of the vote.

    Just think of the braindead people that voted for anyone not named Smith vs picking Maton. That's a lot of stupidity.
     
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    Bobrekipedia and probobrekballreference all in one!! Salute, @bobrek !:)
     
  7. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Just to point out, the Rays were facing a pitcher with the same ERA so whatever the Astros hitters faced, the Rays had it just as bad.

    Edit: This is solely a part of my agenda to bring Javier recognition to how ****ing good he is.
     
  8. Marshall Bryant

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    In order to get an unbiased data set, you must first establish the parameters. YTD is most common. But HOT deserves consideration. Several time frames for HOT. Some common favorite stats are ERA, ERA+, and WHIP. Others are BAA and OBPA.
    Even with just these, there are numerous ways to determine BEST Pitchers for the playoffs.

    What are your favorite parameters?
     
  9. Marshall Bryant

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    Since 9/1, the best SP (runs / IP) with over 20 IP is Javier with 3 runs in 28.1 IP.
    The best with < 20IP is Brown with 2 runs in 2 starts and 4 relief appearances and 18 IP.
     
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  10. Marshall Bryant

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    FYI, Garcia, today's SP, has only given up 5 runs over the last 4 games and 23 IP.
     
  11. IdStrosfan

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    I look at:

    YTD, last 45 days, and last 15 days.

    Matchup: L/R hitters, flyball/groundball hitters, hitters better vs velocity or spin, BB/K rates of hitters.

    Home vs road and likelihood to pitch there ( if JV & Framber start home, Lance & Javier start road-more likely needed on road)

    Stadium tendencies

    I like WHIP, ERA+, FIP, & K per BB, OB% and DLG against

    FTI: it's a ton of work so I will wait till potential opponents are reduced to 2 before I start research. Then research in earnest.

    Teaser: Seth Martinez could be very good vs Toronto but unlikely to make roster vs any other team. Deep sleeper at this point regardless.
     
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    A closer giving up a solo HR with a multi run lead means very little to me, you should be attacking the zone in those situations. So a few of Pressly's "shaky" outings were nothing of the sort.

    Last night was the first game since he came back from his DL stint where Pressly had a bad inning, but he still got the job done.
     
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  13. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    140 inning min, Javier leads all pitchers in xERA this year and is 11th in ERA. If he pitches that well next season and is in the rotation all year, he'll have the innings to get Cy Young votes.
     
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  14. IdStrosfan

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    And set himself up for a huge payday.
     
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  15. Marshall Bryant

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    Would you offer him a 7 year deal while buying out all his arbitration years before this happens? That secures him through age 32. (2029)
     
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    Excuse me. I'm getting a little off track with speculation. Back to the Rays. Line-up should be posting soon.
     
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    Yes
     
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  18. IdStrosfan

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    I would take that gamble

    Strikeout and flyball pitchers will likely retain their value as groundball pitchers lose a bit with the shift going away.

    No health concerns outside of any pitcher

    Still has all 3 arb seasons left so that will keep AAV down.
     
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    18 pitchers have pitched at least 12 innings this year for the Astros.

    All 18 have an ERA under 4.00.

    That is unheard of.
     
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  20. Marshall Bryant

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    Including the Arbitration years is a particularly consideration to extending to 7 years where 6 is typically the Astro's max.
     

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