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[Official] Pete Buttigieg running for President

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. No Worries

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    Empathy is a major concern of yours wrt electing the next President? Good to know.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I know im on your ignore. That being said, companies compete with each and in terms of NDAs they want to keep their procedures quiet for competitive advantage. Yes there are situations of not wanting negative publicity but in terms of consulting, the consultants are there to make things more efficient by figuring out better procedures
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Nobody went to jail for the economy blowing up because subprime mortgages were stupid, not illegal.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Question him I don't have a problem with that. It is fine to be suspicious of McKinsey.

    What I do have a problem with is putting McKinsey into a frame based on half of the information and that being the half that shines negative light and then not being satisfied when the answers to the questions don't confirm the half-picture that's been painted and accepted by the questioners.

    Ask the questions and follow the evidence. But don't doubt the answers because they don't match the narrative you've already constructed.

    I'm not a Mayor Pete enthusiast. I have serious doubts based on what I've heard about McKinsey. That being said, we should question and follow the evidence not beat and deform the evidence to match the limited storage space we reserved based on assumptions.
     
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  5. No Worries

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    If only Mayor Pete had worked for Trump Inc instead of McKinsey coming out of college, we would not be having this silly conversation.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    And this is exactly what he did today.

    Good
     
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  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    i honestly think bulldozing homeless people might sway some GOP voters or “independents.”
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    It’s ripping off a page from making Romney look cutthroat for his time at Bain.

    Instead of being portrayed as a skilled businessman, his personality was riffed to create a narrative of being an elitist who didn’t give a **** about the little guy
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    As long as Evil Pete doesn’t lock up kids...who look like me... in mini cages, what’s the problem?.
     
  10. Major

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    This is so weird. The US Senate has done a bunch of terrible things too, bankrupting millions of people, causing the deaths of thousands of US soliders, etc. Does that mean Sanders and Warren should be guilty-by-association too since all that apparently matters is if you worked for them?

    Where do you work, CometsWin? If that company does something bad, are you responsible for it and should future employers use that against you? Should every Enron employee be unemployable?

    It's like someone sent out a Bat Signal to take down Mayor Pete and its followers don't care if their arguments make any damn sense.
     
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  11. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Major, you do not understand. We must have a candidate who is culturally pure, without blemish. Without the entrapments of the monied class... without flowers, and without songbirds. Even without sideburns.

    [​IMG]

    (Edit: by the way, here is the totally corrupt list of clients he "serviced" while consulting: Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, Canadian supermarket chain Loblaws, Best Buy, the National Resources Defense Council, Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, The Energy Foundation, the U.S. Defense Department, and the U.S. Postal Service. Just look what happened to Best Buy, by the way! Coincidence?)
     
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  12. Major

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    Please tell us what laws were specifically violated and by whom, and what the associated penalties are? My understanding is "almost destroy an economy" is not a specific criminal offense. Perhaps that's disqualifying for Bernie and Warren for that since they work for the Senate, and it didn't pass such a law.

    Also, many who did commit specific criminal acts did go to jail, so your question is not even based in reality.
     
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  13. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I don't understand your aversion to accountability. There's a long list of people that belong in prison from Alberto Gonzales and John Yoo to the crooks at Goldman and Moody's that burned a hole in the economy. No accountability and business as usual for political and corporate malfeasance. It's got to end.

    Pete's running for President, he's no longer a private citizen. His career and his choices are fair game.

    The bat signal on Pete is that he's the current political embodiment of white privilege which is saying a lot considering all the remaining Democratic candidates are rich white people. He's done a terrible job of courting voters outside of the heavily white voters of Iowa and New Hampshire, his tactics in South Carolina were a disaster, and he's also the most unqualified candidate for president that I can ever remember. That bat signal is carrying far and wide right now.
     
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    I'm not a federal prosecutor but I do believe fraud is a crime. Moody's putting out fake ratings for the mortgages is fraud. Goldman paid billions of dollars in fines in 2008 for fraud with no admission of wrongdoing of course. They knew they were sitting on billions in bad mortgages and they conspired to dump them and then shorted against their own customers. That's a joke.

    Maybe you're on a different plane of reality.
     
  15. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Lame.

    Typically when health insurers like Blue Cross hire expensive consultants like McKinsey they're just trying to cut down on their office supplies, not promote profits through reduction of care, layoffs, and increases in premiums.
     
  16. No Worries

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    A cautionary tale of how a lowly, entry level consultant took down a mighty corporate gentle giant. Pure evil.
     
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    The rating agencies have no motivation to lie. They only damage their reputation when they miss warning signs.
     
  18. No Worries

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    That is a really bad take.
     
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    What does any of this have to with Pete and his NDA?

    Why are you bashing Pete because he has NDA?

    Did he not ask them to release him from the NDA?
     

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