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[Official] NFL Week 4

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Castor27, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. A_3PO

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    FIFY. Valid question to ask.

    His 2013 is a great painting in progress that all of us should sit back and enjoy.
     
  2. SK34

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    Denvers O Line gives him sooo MUCH TIME!! DAMN!
     
  3. SK34

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    And Lions are very surprising.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    And they finished with 69 while the Broncos ran 71. No big deal.

    With a 53-man roster, the Oregon offense can't work in the NFL.
     
  5. UtilityPlayer

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    Steelers , Giants both are 0-4 , Dolphins and Chiefs are undefeated so far.
     
  6. Lil Pun

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    I think we've seen it work.
     
  7. Major

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    Yup - the offense is doing OK. Philly's current problem is their league-worst defense. And before people blame that on their highspeed offense, they had this problem last year too.
     
  8. ubigred

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    CHRIS COLLINSWORTH SUCKS
     
  9. t_mac1

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    Broncos still missing Bailey and Von. Damn.

    And Peyton is EASILY the best regular season quarterback of all time. EASILY.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    Oregon plays 12 games, about 8 of which are legit. 4 are ridiculous mismatches that are over after the 1st quarter. They do this with 100+ players.

    The Eagles have a 16-game NFL schedule with 53 players. Let's see what's happening in week 13.
     
  11. Shaud

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    Redzone offense sucks. Im sick of this ****
     
  12. wizkid83

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    He had Vince Young to give them mis-direction.
     
  13. Lil Pun

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    I agree, we do not know if it is sustainable but your original statement said it won't work which it has. Weeks 1 and 2 showed that but in Week 2 defense and special teams flat out sucked. Week 3 saw the offense make its first mistakes of the season and the defense and special teams sucked. Week 4 the offense was fine but the defense again was lackluster.

    The offense has some struggles, such as their red zone efficiency being bad but they move the ball most of the time, I mean their offense is second only to Denver in yardage and eight in scoring. This is basically the same team on offense that finished 15th and 29th in those same categories last year.

    Now, the results look good now but I agree we'll have to see if it is sustainable over the long haul.
     
  14. Lil Pun

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    You know, that's a good point.
     
  15. Major

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    Teams have 85 scholarship players, and a chunk of those won't ever see the field (redshirting, or just youth/suckitude), while basically everyone on an NFL roster gets used. NFL games are noticably shorter thanks to the running clock on 1st downs, and NFL players should be better conditioned thanks to years of professional nutrition and training. That said, you may be right that it won't work over time. But so far, here's what we have:

    2012: Philly Offense: #29 in the NFL; Defense: 29th in the NFL
    2013: Philly Offense: #8 in the NFL: Defense: 26th in the NFL

    They've made substantial improvements on offense with basically the same personnel (and without their best WR) - and they were already coached by a good offensive mind before this year.
     
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    For comparison, in terms of yards, Philly's offense (460ypg) thus far this year is only surpassed by this year's ridiculous Broncos and the Saints of 2011 in the last 10 years. And they are EASILY leading the league in rushing - at 200 yards per game with the #2 team at 150. No team in recent memory has put up those kinds of rushing statistics. And these Eagles are doing it without a Brees or Manning at QB.

    Still a very small sample size, but so far, the offense is doing fairly well.
     
  17. Lil Pun

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    You could add to that the change in defense has happened as well. They went from a 4-3 to a 3-4 scheme. They're a draft or two and some free agents away from being decent in that scheme at all.
     
  18. A_3PO

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    I won't deny their offense has improved these first 4 games as compared to last season. But remember, after 4-5 games last year, the Eagles crashed and burned and Andy Reid became a dead coach walking. Their problems on offense were a function of chemistry, effort and trust more than scheme or pace. Things were very ugly and not worth rehashing here. For that reason, I don't think a year-over-year comparison is fair.

    Sustainability is the real question worth debating about Chip Kelly's Eagles IMO. We are 4 games into the experiment.
     
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    Something that may shock people is that rushing was the foundation of Oregon's offense under Chip Kelly. It was his weapon of choice more than passing. One of his primary goals (maybe #1) of using pace was to cause front 7s to blow gap assignments so their speedy RBs can break off chunks of yardage running up the gut and off tackle.
     
  20. underrated015

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    I want to hate new England but they know how to get it done . Who are their tight ends and receivers? Jealous of the brady/hoody combo. :mad:
     

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